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    Player Biggs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    OP, you had me feeling for you for about 2 sentances, then I glanced to the left side of my screen and saw your character name. Then I realized It was time to stop reading after those 2 sentances, because I could no longr take anything you say seriously.
    But its MUCH easier to take someone in a reindeer costume playing an online fantasy game as elf seriously? Grow up man, really? Your splitting hairs. The crysta system is a joke, and if people think paypal is a secure way to manage their bills, they are fooling themselves. That shit gets hacked all the time.
    Their billing system is just as halfassed as the condition this game was in at release.
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    Ya, I've done both so far for FFXI. Click and Buy for Canadians almost adds an extra 1$ per transaction. Ultimate-Pay with Crysta only adds about 40 cents so it stays under 14$. Either way you look at it though, they both add transaction fees which is ridiculous. For now, I'm still paying XI with Crysta since it's the cheaper option, but it's ridiculous nonetheless.

    Best part is SE had announced they were looking into these additional charges through Click and Buy, they were supposed to resolve them, and of course, nothing happened. Why they can't bill us directly to our CC's without adding fees on top of it beyond the advertised price... I don't know. Every other MMO in existence can do it, but not one with a massive company running it.
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    Pretty sure transaction fees are typical of almost any banking, especially western banking -- Long as no one uses ATMs, I guess you never encounter service charge of any kind in your life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    Best part is SE had announced they were looking into these additional charges through Click and Buy, they were supposed to resolve them, and of course, nothing happened.
    SE doesn't own, run nor invest in Click & Buy, they can't directly control them.
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    Exactly! So why keep going with them, it makes no sense! Not once, with the old billing system on playonline did I get overcharged. They charged me 12.99$, US to Canadian currency exchange rate, that was it! Nothing more, nothing less! By looking into it, I'd assume they'd go: "Hmmm, people are getting over charged by this company, maybe we should take our business elsewhere, or offer options with no extra charge!"
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    I know, I never had problems with POL either -- Yet a lot of people complained about it for the mere fact they couldn't get into FFXI with 1 click.
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    I'm just glad theres a discount at present, so I'm going for the 6 month option

    Thought I'm not sure I understand 1 crysta = 1 cent in the Account Control panel, as 1 cent doesnt equate to 1 pence in RL (as i'm sure it doesnt in all other countries)

    Its only a minor complaint though, given I've stupidly been paying for XI since forever (minus a few months when my card expired), also stupidly thinking us long term XI players/subscribers might have got something more than a "token item(s)" in XIV /sigh

    Ah well.... Happy new year all
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    When I initially set up my account at launch I opted for the Click and Buy method, but also heard about their shortcomings afterward. This time I chose the crysta option but would still prefer to directly pay to SE like I did with Blizzard back when I played WoW. I'm sure i'll get some hate on this, but I was one that never minded POL, and given what we have now as payment options, I would have no issues going back to that.
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    "you can ONLY buy even amounts of Crysta while the billing service is an uneven amount of money."

    I used Ultimate Pay (VERY easy, and friendly too use compared to C&B). I bought 795 Crysta as I had some left over from my FFXI Crysta purchases. Took me about 20 seconds. No reason to complain really.

    Also, I don't mean to be an ass, but if you can't figure out this process when they posted a guide how to do it on the lodestone. I don't believe for a second you're in college or filled out a FAFSA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    "you can ONLY buy even amounts of Crysta while the billing service is an uneven amount of money."

    I used Ultimate Pay (VERY easy, and friendly too use compared to C&B). I bought 795 Crysta as I had some left over from my FFXI Crysta purchases. Took me about 20 seconds. No reason to complain really.

    Also, I don't mean to be an ass, but if you can't figure out this process when they posted a guide how to do it on the lodestone. I don't believe for a second you're in college or filled out a FAFSA.
    Or you could read the post and surmise that the complaint is in reference to a billing system that shouldn't require two third parties to be easy - this is actually inefficient for the consumer. It should also be noted that said transactions should not be subject to service and transfer fees. We already play an incomplete game and the least SE could do is have a simple and straight-forward billing system. Also, 50% of the post was in reference to C&B being bogus.

    Based on your post I would imagine that you also are in college (or graduated) since you made a dick post without working to understand the other side of the conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Or you could read the post and surmise that the complaint is in reference to a billing system that shouldn't require two third parties to be easy - this is actually inefficient for the consumer. It should also be noted that said transactions should not be subject to service and transfer fees. We already play an incomplete game and the least SE could do is have a simple and straight-forward billing system. Also, 50% of the post was in reference to C&B being bogus.

    Based on your post I would imagine that you also are in college (or graduated) since you made a dick post without working to understand the other side of the conflict.
    Not going to disagree, C&B is garbage. Ultimate Pay isn't though. My post was more in reference to the fact that you CAN buy specific amounts of Crysta. As long as you buy $5+ worth of it. They also don't charge service fees.
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