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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizlu View Post
    I wasn't able to use C&B - outside of the US.

    Crysta was the only option, and I used Paypal. I only paid what was needed. No even amounts or things. Or is that option unavailable in your country?

    I mean, yeah - it would be better if it was a direct transaction instead of using C&B or Crysta. But right now you can pay the exact amount you want.

    http://i.imgur.com/jivfM.jpg (FABULOUS proof #1)

    http://i.imgur.com/i8neL.jpg (FABULOUS proof #2)

    What's ridiculous is that ClickandBuy is based in London, so you get slapped with foreign transaction fees if you pay through them. On top of that CnB has a questionable reputation and has a negative rating with the Better Business Bureau.

    CnB is primarily used by gambling organizations, because of their sloppy paperwork, and they have no real regulation.

    Square-Enix's usage of CnB, and my discovery of CnB's reputation and lack of customer support, was why I terminated my credit card on the spot and had a new card issued. That was a huge inconvenience for me in the middle of the college season!

    It's really irksome that SE hasn't added more payment options.

    P.S. When you buy Crysta, you end up paying service charges to PlaySpan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    P.S. When you buy Crysta, you end up paying service charges to PlaySpan...
    I was actually worried about this, I've read it before but since C&B is not an option I went ahead and used the other service. I just checked my credit card statement/thing and the charge was only for the amount added. So I really don't see that "service fee".

    Who knows. Thing is SE should implement a simple way to pay or at least let us use PayPal directly without going trough another service/company.
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    By using Crysta, you are charged 999 Crysta per month. You can buy Crysta in increments of 500. You are losing a penny a month.

    BIG DEAL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong View Post
    By using Crysta, you are charged 999 Crysta per month. You can buy Crysta in increments of 500. You are losing a penny a month.

    BIG DEAL
    Sure, but the principle is the issue. This is actually an old carnival scam that originated in Europe and is illegal in a majority of the world. If my penny isn't a big deal then charge me for it without the facade.

    But let's do the math, just so you can see the joy of how this works.

    -1,000,000 subscriptions a month
    -$0.01 overage charged per account
    -$10,000 each month from overage charges

    In the grand scheme that isn't a whole lot but consider the ethics of the practice. Is it right to do so? Nope. Is it right to support it? Not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Maybe I can add Crysta? Ok, really? Crysta is just an online version of Chuck-e-Cheese tokens that you use to buy pencil erasers from the redemption counter. Oh, and the great thing about that - you can ONLY buy even amounts of Crysta while the billing service is an uneven amount of money. This means that every transaction it is mathematically to avoid breaking even unless I maintain the account for an incredibly long amount of time to which point the equation finally is equally spent
    Quote Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong View Post
    By using Crysta, you are charged 999 Crysta per month. You can buy Crysta in increments of 500. You are losing a penny a month.

    BIG DEAL
    What do you guys mean?
    You can choose the amount yourself. I buyed exactly 999 crystas last month per PayPal. Not more, not less
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    What do you guys mean?
    You can choose the amount yourself. I buyed exactly 999 crystas last month per PayPal. Not more, not less
    I've been reading through the posts waiting for someone to mention it. Congratulations, you won a cookie

    Seriously people, how about you check out the new options before starting a thread with half-outdated info?
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    did we really need another thread on this? OP is horribly late to the "OMG payment sucks" train as well ;p

    I have my account set to Crysta, and I bought some in about... *thinks* a minute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Sure, but the principle is the issue. This is actually an old carnival scam that originated in Europe and is illegal in a majority of the world. If my penny isn't a big deal then charge me for it without the facade.

    But let's do the math, just so you can see the joy of how this works.

    -1,000,000 subscriptions a month
    -$0.01 overage charged per account
    -$10,000 each month from overage charges

    In the grand scheme that isn't a whole lot but consider the ethics of the practice. Is it right to do so? Nope. Is it right to support it? Not really.
    Once again I say: Big deal. If a penny a month from me means more money for SE to pay there hard working employees, I'm all for it.
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    I've put together a thread that shows that us Swiss players can't use PayPal (or Tessin users, who knows).
    You can find it here. It's enough proof that we can't select PayPal, neither Crysta =)

    I'm really hoping for this new direct payment system they're gonna release.
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    They said they going to add more payments plans for everyone in the world it's the 3 right now 2days away from us have to pay and there still no news on this -.-
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