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  1. #31
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    Fiosha_Maureiba's Avatar
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 1
    In the grand scheme of balance, I'm against significant racial stat differences.

    Initial, Everquest and FF11 had this realism effect in there. But I think it'll lead to further alienation.
    The large races had significant combat advantages, but at a price of not being able to enter most cities ~ less vendor access.

    The way players want to stack a certain class on Primal fights, I feel will probably discriminate further to excluding certain races for this stacking.

    A certain moment stands out in my mind on racial stats. I recall being in a party just outside of Jeuno (or inside, the route toward a tower guarded by gigas). A level 29 Tarutaru Warrior that had full HP, Protect and Shell up, wearing chain mail, had a shield (don't know if it was leveled), got hit once, then within a few seconds, the enemy followed up with a Screwdriver attack and killed him. As a White Mage responsible for healing, that moment horrified me pretty bad.

    I honestly can't remember if he had Berserk or Defender up, his sub job and/if it was leveled, and I'm pretty sure I didn't have Stoneskin yet. It left no room for error, he had to be topped off or he would die. He tried tanking again and I believe the party didn't work out in the end. I couldn't keep him alive against that mob. Versus a Galka Warrior tank that got hit with two consecutive Screwdriver attacks and still remained standing.

    When racial stats play that much of a difference, I have to say that I'm against racial stats.
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  2. #32
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    Fear's Avatar
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    Fear Vivi
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Hell no to racial stats / traits. I HATED FFXI for this reason, I started as a taru BLM then went onto WAR and NIN and by the end levels I suffered a loss of 300~ HP compared to the other races, and at a max of 1000 HP 300 extra would help alot.
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  3. #33
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    Karleguarth's Avatar
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    Bum Bum
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    Titan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    It's actually there since day one: Raw food and races

    3% bonus to the stat given by the food.. If you're eating it with the right race.
    Frankly it doesn't make a huge difference, it's just a 5min buff like Protect

    Used to be 5% when we were able to alter our stats to trigger Divine favor.. Or with a +3 favored raw food.
    I believe something will change in 1.21 though, let's see what happens.
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  4. #34
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    We already have racial and clan stat differences -- No one's noticed because despite popular belief, it's not a bad thing lol. Racial traits would be good and makes sense since a lot of people want FFXIV to be a "standard MMORPG" standard MMORPGs have racial/clan traits as well, some of which does overpower a race over another.
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  5. #35
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    Cyonos Teventir
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Its all fine and good that everyone will be the same but isnt there anything that you would like to set you apart from the rest of the races besides the way you look.

    If there were racial stat differences boosted to the likes of XI it seems that there could be a racial quest thats repeatable every so often and would have rewards similar to rse gear from XI for each specific race that was a class driven piece of gear accessory or w/e.

    Its just and idea to bring a little more diversty to the game is all. It just kinda of bothers me that everyone will be the same and do the same amount of dmg, curing, dmg reduction no matter what you are.

    This was just a thought and a opinion of somtheing that might make the game a little more appealing, though i can see where all of you that dont like the idea are coming from. Im just glad no one has blasted me to bad yet for even bringing it up.
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  6. #36
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    Peach Parfait
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyonos View Post
    If there were racial stat differences boosted to the likes of XI it seems that there could be a racial quest thats repeatable every so often and would have rewards similar to rse gear from XI for each specific race that was a class driven piece of gear accessory or w/e.
    Why do there have to be stat differences for something like this?
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  7. #37
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    Cyonos Teventir
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    It doesnt have to be stat differences for that, I just dont understand why there has to be conformity when there can be a little flavor. Either way w/e they decide to do with 2.0 and all i'm behind them 100%
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  8. #38
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    Luca Abbot
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Sorry to get all technical on ya'll but, race is really not an appropriate word I think.
    Species would probably be better.
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  9. #39
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    Peach Parfait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyonos View Post
    It doesnt have to be stat differences for that, I just dont understand why there has to be conformity when there can be a little flavor. Either way w/e they decide to do with 2.0 and all i'm behind them 100%
    Because significant stat differences leads to massive elitism. When the armory system is designed to allow everyone to play every class, it's contradictory to make it so different races/species play some classes better/worse than other races/species.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  10. #40
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    Hazel Meade
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 51
    No thank you for racial stat differences. I like it for games where 1 character = 1 class, but in a game that seems to say "you can do anything by equipping a weapon" I don't like it.

    Right now in this game I play the race I want for cosmetic reasons only and I like it that way.

    If they did make the racial stats different than the small difference they have currently, I would hope they also allow free race changes.

    I might be for other non-stat related racial bonuses depending on what they are.
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