NIN/MNK difficulty?

[Neela]

yeah you could if you want to - but honestly who does that? its more like "oh wow the first 20 SAMs easily reach 6k+ dps" and not like "oh wow the first 20 SAMs got awesome support from Asts, Drg, Nin, Brd, pots and highend food" – nobody actually is looking behind the scenes its more likely just a quick view on the rankinglist itself "oh wow SAM indeed is really op!!!111". – fflogs at its best will always stays as an indicator but not more.

[F_Maximillian]

yeah you could if you want to - but honestly who does that? its more like "oh wow the first 20 SAMs easily reach 6k+ dps" and not like "oh wow the first 20 SAMs got awesome support from Asts, Drg, Nin, Brd, pots and highend food" – nobody actually is looking behind the scenes its more likely just a quick view on the rankinglist itself "oh wow SAM indeed is really op!!!111". – fflogs at its best will always stays as an indicator but not more.

You really shouldn't dismiss something that you yourself don't use. Plenty of people use fflogs to improve themselves, the ranking is a bonus for most that use it. Even those who do their best to circlejerk over the rankings use it to examine fights in detail and minmax. The tools fflogs provide are rather in-depth and useful for anyone who looks to fine tune (more people than you would think).

[Laflama_Blanca]

You really shouldn't dismiss something that you yourself don't use. Plenty of people use fflogs to improve themselves, the ranking is a bonus for most that use it. Even those who do their best to circlejerk over the rankings use it to examine fights in detail and minmax. The tools fflogs provide are rather in-depth and useful for anyone who looks to fine tune (more people than you would think).

This is true, fflogs provides a wealth of information. It's very useful to use the logs when optimizing a fight and to see what other players are doing differently. But people have not been using it in that context in this thread.

[F_Maximillian]

This is true, fflogs provides a wealth of information. It's very useful to use the logs when optimizing a fight and to see what other players are doing differently. But people have not been using it in that context in this thread.

Well of course, I'm not going to delve into an entirely subjective argument (that's what it is, difficulty depends on who you ask). I'm merely stating that fflogs has more use than a place for people to dps circlejerk.