Faking disconnects

[hynaku4494]

Really Don't think there's that many fake disconnects. Bet most is from 90k errors or from fires and bad weather. For me about every dungeon get at least one 90k error in them. Maybe all the fires is causing them.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

Had a guy try do this in World of Darkness back in 2.5, wanted to get kicked really badso he could do something else (not sure why he queue'd in the first place, probably missed his drop) and he faked disconnecting twice but we just left him as is, he sulked about not wanting to get a 30 min timeout and never helped on any of the fights, in the end we won, he lost more time whining than he would have if he ate the lockout.

That said, sometimes you can get disconnected at the worst of times, got into a dungeon and my router decided to play up for about 10 minutes, rip 25 minute queue.

[Noshpan]

I wait. I can wait until the dungeon's duration expires. But my fellow party members are not as patient as I, so a rule of thumb is waiting about 5-10 minutes before kicking. That tends to give plenty of time for the person to come back if they were legitimately disconnected.

Related on the topic of waiting, I will wait out the timer on minions in dungeons/raids. I know it pisses those people off who don't roll (in the hopes that people will leave the duty before they roll so that they get the minion automatically) & I'm spiteful.

(I've learned to have this sort of patience during the Burning Crusade expansion in WoW, when people with Skinning would follow others around Nagrand to skin the clefthoof mobs before the player that killed them can. So I'd keep the loot box open, thus preventing others from stealing my skinnable beasts. Which got really interesting since I was on a pvp server.)

[Aster_E]

I definitely don't mind waiting 5-10 minutes. I understand a random 90k can happen--it's done so to me more times than I care to count--and I know that some people also try to fake DCing in the hopes that they're kicked for that. If they want to "Fake DC" and only take 3-4 minutes to come back, well, then I hope they like the immediate other option of leaving the duty on their own.

Of course, on the other hand, I try not to be so bad that I drive anyone to fake a disconnect. <_<

[Cenerae]

I never understood the need to 'fake dc' in the first place.

Just man up and take the penalty on the nose if you don't want to be in the dungeon, 'fake dcing' is being rude to everyone else in the group for no good reason. Even if you hated everyone else in the group, you could always blacklist them to help prevent the rare chance of ever seeing any of them again.

And if your logic behind it is 'I'm going to do something else for 30 minutes and then come back' then you really might as well have just dropped in the first place.

[KisaiTenshi]

I never understood the need to 'fake dc' in the first place.

Botters and griefers will do it to speed up their profiting,or harassment.

Under optimal conditions, DC'ing should actually penalize the player at the data center select screen. You all know about the 90K errors. The server could just push an explicit error that forces them to either log back into the world they are still logged into and continue playing, or wait 30 minutes.

[akaneakki]

Botters and griefers will do it to speed up their profiting,or harassment.

Under optimal conditions, DC'ing should actually penalize the player at the data center select screen. You all know about the 90K errors. The server could just push an explicit error that forces them to either log back into the world they are still logged into and continue playing, or wait 30 minutes.

Lol this is idea is bad.

[Jeykama]

Should just cause a DF strike if you get kicked from duty, same thing that stacks up if you withdraw from a DF queue pop, since it's the same effect whether it's a real 90k or fake - you're wasting the time of the pugs in queue.

If it's a real 90k or a real situation to withdraw, then it's not a huge penalty unless you've been constantly 90king/withdrawing all day - at which point you should fix your internet or whatever situation caused you to constantly withdraw from queue instead of continuing to queue. If you constantly get kicked from duties you should probably reflect on yourself why it's happening.

If it's a serial faker then they'd have requeue penalties until the next day so whatever.

[hynaku]

Should just cause a DF strike if you get kicked from duty, same thing that stacks up if you withdraw from a DF queue pop, since it's the same effect whether it's a real 90k or fake - you're wasting the time of the pugs in queue.

If it's a real 90k or a real situation to withdraw, then it's not a huge penalty unless you've been constantly 90king/withdrawing all day - at which point you should fix your internet or whatever situation caused you to constantly withdraw from queue instead of continuing to queue. If you constantly get kicked from duties you should probably reflect on yourself why it's happening.

If it's a serial faker then they'd have requeue penalties until the next day so whatever.

I hope you start getting 90k errors every few minutes and then see what other players have to put up with. Before you blame it on there internet. Massive Disconnects they said is from ddos attacks so how is that the players fault.

[Zfz]

You don't always get massive disconnects due to DDoS attacks all year round, do you? When something like that happens, it's more than reasonable to halt the DF penalty count server-wide, just like how certain measures are put in place during expansion launches to manage traffic.

I used to get frequent 90k disconnects back in 2.3 or 2.4 when our connecting submarine cable was damaged. What did I do? I stayed out of DF instead of trying my luck and wasting everyone's time even after knowing that my connection is unstable. If you have an unstable connection, you need to fix it or get your ISP to fix it.