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    Anienai Talenca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    When did I say single target and skip aoes I agreed with the person about melee can aoe just like other classes all I added was how crappy and pointless DRG aoe is besides it's usefulness with BOTD..I need you to read instead of trying to sound smart
    I think she might be pointing out "waist of time" portion of your post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    Lol clearly you dont play DRG but death spike and sonic thrust are both weaker then tanks aoe so it is a complete waist of time unless you are trying to save BOTD
    She put it in bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

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    Kodoyaki Takoyaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    I know the a big part of tanking is setting the pace of the dungeon and every dps and their mother wants to rush a dungeon but honestly I don't.
    So don't. As you said, you set the pace. If it's not super dooper sonic fast like they want, to hell with them. If they have a problem with it, explain that you don't want to pull big. If they have a problem with that, they can quit and find a different party.
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohdo View Post
    So don't. As you said, you set the pace. If it's not super dooper sonic fast like they want, to hell with them. If they have a problem with it, explain that you don't want to pull big. If they have a problem with that, they can quit and find a different party.
    I really don't get this viewpoint, and a lot of tanks seem to have it. You're essentially playing a team based game, why do you think your feelings matter more than the rest of the party's? "I don't want to" isn't a valid reason to not do big pulls when the other three people "want to."
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    Maximillion Xameht
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    My view on being comfortable with big pulls on tank has always been that the tank is by far the least important part of the success of the pull, so it doesn't matter if you're comfortable with them or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    Lol clearly you dont play DRG but death spi
    Clearly u don't read tool tips, 130 potency is stronger than pali 100 potency aoe, sonic thrust is 170 potency. Dragonfire dive every two mins geirskogul, every 35 seconds. Plus u have tons of buffs to boast ur aoe, bfb , life surge, heavy thrust works on aoe to, plus battle latency. I'm level64 but clearly u been handling mobs wrong dragoon has plenty of aoe tools
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Clearly u don't read tool tips, 130 potency is stronger than pali 100 potency aoe, sonic thrust is 170 potency. Dragonfire dive every two mins geirskogul, every 35 seconds. Plus u have tons of buffs to boast ur aoe, bfb , life surge, heavy thrust works on aoe to, plus battle latency. I'm level64 but clearly u been handling mobs wrong dragoon has plenty of aoe tools
    Basically Heavy Thrust buff will put your Doom Spike to 149.5pot and Sonic Thrust to 195.5pot and that is per enemy hit, we have not included Nastrond and Geirskogul and Dragon Sight's 10% yet. Compare to tanks' potency with their tank stance up is lower for sure. Paladin's Total Eclipse is 110pot btw.

    Every class has their AOE rotations so IDK what that guy claims, but well he pays for his sub anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcatica View Post
    Basically Heavy Thrust buff will put your Doom Spike to 149.5pot and Sonic Thrust to 195.5pot and that is per enemy hit, we have not included Nastrond and Geirskogul and Dragon Sight's 10% yet. Compare to tanks' potency with their tank stance up is lower for sure. Paladin's Total Eclipse is 110pot btw.

    Every class has their AOE rotations so IDK what that guy claims, but well he pays for his sub anyway.
    Like I said Im just level 64 loving dragoon by the way but , I have about three jobs left to level after dragoon and I have never felt I didnt have enough aoe on any job. Some people in here just clearly dont read tool tips , just really triggers me thanks for pointing out about dragon sight havent gotten it yet but lookin forward to it.
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    Shizuno Urushibaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    However despite getting better at bigger pulls I just can't say I enjoy them. Their honestly stressful and not fun at all. I know the a big part of tanking is setting the pace of the dungeon and every dps and their mother wants to rush a dungeon but honestly I don't.

    I guess I'm looking for some advice from the more veteran tanks.
    tank how you want as long as you keep agro and the party survives thats all that matters. if they piss n moan about that just let them either kick you or leave.... they have to re-queue for a long time and you'll get a almost instant enter into the next roulettes, dungeons may take some time on the lower leveled dungeons as you dunno how many are trying to get in.
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    Aubret Reinard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
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    Because you're the one tanking, not them. Because you've assumed responsibility for getting the group through the dungeon that they have not. If the group wiping is going to be your fault then you deserve to be in control of at least what is currently being pulled and tanked. I understand DPS are impatient after sitting in the queue for probably half an hour. I see plenty of healers who are DPS that rerolled for faster queues. I myself have probably done the dungeon 30-50 times already and I'm more than capable of speed running. It's still nice to be able to slow down once in a while and breathe.

    This is supposed to be a game, it's supposed to be fun. If you're going to make it stressful that's the opposite of fun and I'm going to stop playing. Tanks are always in demand because it's a stressful role. Why add to that?
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyndam View Post
    Because you're the one tanking, not them.
    So?? You chose to tank. You're not taking on some great burden against your will. Yes, it's a game, but, again, it's a team game. If tanking according to your group's desires stresses you out so much, reroll as another role. Tanking is the easiest job in dungeons in the first place at 50, 60 and 70. Hold hate, position mobs, rotate cooldowns and self healing as necessary, do some extra dps if you want. That's it. You're only responsible for the group wiping if you don't do the first three.
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