is it okay to not enjoy big pulls?

[Sarcatica]

Withouth considering 10min waste on a 30min run is nothing (as it's 33% to 50% of the time in the dungeon), If you start to consider the game as a job where everything must be done as little much as possible, I have quite bad news for you.

Then maybe raiding is not for you? Play the game however you want. All I can say is please don't waste other people's time if you don't plan to improve. It's like you are telling dota/lol players that ranks don't matter.

I love improving and absolutely hate people who just want to raid but don't improve which is why I only tend to help those people who I know I can help.

[Mavrias]

Oh the humanity. A dungeon is taking 10 minutes longer. Whatever shall we do?

Stop whining, Jezus Christ. It's just 10 minutes. Boo hoo.

I respect that you don't value your free time that much. Please respect that I do value mine.

[TouchandFeel]

Oh the humanity. A dungeon is taking 10 minutes longer. Whatever shall we do?

Stop whining, Jezus Christ. It's just 10 minutes. Boo hoo.

10 minutes longer for a single run can mean a lot.

On the average work-week day, I at most get an hour to play after getting home before I have to start food prep and cooking dinner for myself and my gf. That's about time to get in maybe 2-3 runs, so an expert roulette and maybe a leveling roulette or two. Now if each of those runs took 10 minutes more, that's 20-30 minutes extra out of my hour, or to frame it another way a third to half of my potential playtime. Those "measly 10 minutes" add up quick and if you don't have a lot of time to play to begin with it can really diminish what you can accomplish in that time.

If you're not willing to respect my time and situation and would rather be all like "oh no boo hoo, deal with it", why should I respect your situation and time?

I'm perfectly accepting and supportive if someone is unable and needs things slowed down a bit, but if they are just unwilling, well then they are being selfish and I have no sympathy for such.

[Hierro]

Oh the humanity. A dungeon is taking 10 minutes longer. Whatever shall we do?

Stop whining, Jezus Christ. It's just 10 minutes. Boo hoo.

How desperate do you have to be for attention to literally repeat what you posted on the first page? Sad!

[Aomine1992]

Actually dragoon has a 140 potency and 170 potency aoe skill

Lol clearly you dont play DRG but death spike and sonic thrust are both weaker then tanks aoe so it is a complete waist of time unless you are trying to save BOTD

[Freyyy]

Lol clearly you dont play DRG but death spike and sonic thrust are both weaker then tanks aoe so it is a complete waist of time unless you are trying to save BOTD

Even if melees except SAM tend to have weaker AoE skills compared to other DPS, pulling big and using those AoE skills is still more efficient than pulling small and single-targetting like you'd do in Sastasha. Understanding this is as simple as 1+1=2.

[TouchandFeel]

Either that woman completely misunderstood when someone told her to "watch her waistline" or Flava Flav is her personal stylist.

[The_NPC]

My only advice is start small & work u'r way up very slowly... thou u can ignore the "very" part once/if u have an understanding of how all healer classes "basic" skills work, have learned to judge probable heal strength by Gear ilv & have been pared with every DPS combo for 4-mans possible in nearly any leveling dungeon (these 3 info parts are to gradually increase u'r judgement skills for party STR via-1st dungeon pull senarios).

Those 3 info bits aside the only way to "Master" Tanking is... well to Tank, & I mean OFTEN, so much so that in a near asleep daze u can somehow tank a whole dungeon (Bosses & dubble pulls) while still doing Def CD rotation & Arrgo management. Not kidding its a sign u've Tanked to much when u can do that... I have & I had to pull a dubble take to be sure I just did what I did (checked with RL friend who was the healer too & went to bed after). The real question is "Is Mass pulling sposta be fun?" & the answer is: "thats up to u"

[Elkanah]

So I've been practicing drk and decided to start trying out bigger pulls. The first try was a disaster. My healer couldn't keep up and became hostile and left along with the rest of my group shattering my confidence. I tried again and did better the second time and got a nice pep talk from my second group.

However despite getting better at bigger pulls I just can't say I enjoy them. Their honestly stressful and not fun at all. I know the a big part of tanking is setting the pace of the dungeon and every dps and their mother wants to rush a dungeon but honestly I don't.

I guess I'm looking for some advice from the more veteran tanks.

This. Always this. Start small and if you feel comfortable, mention it to the players. They're more likely to understand if you advise them ahead of time. Don't just rush in and pull the whole room without being confident you know that you're okay with it and your healer is okay. Don't sprint when you pull. As most healers don't know what the sprint button is either. lol.

But pull normally at 3-6 and move higher if you can. If you play from DPS view, you can actually see where and when stopping points will be on tank too. Ask your fc for a unsynced practice run with a capped out tank and healer to get an understanding! That's what I do to help train players in our groups

[Aomine1992]

Even if melees except SAM tend to have weaker AoE skills compared to other DPS, pulling big and using those AoE skills is still more efficient than pulling small and single-targetting like you'd do in Sastasha. Understanding this is as simple as 1+1=2.

When did I say single target and skip aoes I agreed with the person about melee can aoe just like other classes all I added was how crappy and pointless DRG aoe is besides it's usefulness with BOTD..I need you to read instead of trying to sound smart