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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Because it's a waste of all the time you spent in queue plus whatever time you spent in the dungeon. I imagine it's especially annoying if it appears to be for an arbitrary reason or no reason at all.
    So you are saying people dislike getting kicked because it is a waste of time spent inside the dungeon, so one players time has more inherent value over the two other people required to have the vote to pass?

    If someone is annoyed because of the time spent they should understand when two other people vote to kick them since maybe they feel the presence of the one person is a waste of their time for whatever reason. If time is a the reason then the players that did the kicking felt they should not have to wait an extra 15 seconds, to them that was a waste of time so they removed the factor that caused that wasted time.

    If someone get annoyed about being kicked because they feel the reason is arbitrary, who are we to dictate what a valid reason is to kick someone? No matter the intent fact of the matter is majority rules, you need a majority to pass a vote getting annoyed or upset because the group did not align with you and felt the vote was valid no matter the reason just seems silly to me. When you get into the realm of wanting to police vote kick it would only cause more issues overall, probably would result in a more toxic run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    So you are saying people dislike getting kicked because it is a waste of time spent inside the dungeon[...]
    Yes, I understand all of this. I'm an advocate of using the vote dismiss function when the need warrants it. I was answering your specific inquiry as to why the kicked people might feel the way they do. How the rest of the group may feel and their reasoning for initiating the kick is entirely independent from how the kicked person feels. In no way am I saying groups can't or shouldn't be able to decide what constitutes a valid reason on their own (though according to SE, there is such thing as abuse of the system, so the line is drawn somewhere). Majority does rule, but that doesn't mean you don't reserve the right to be upset if the group rules against you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
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    The party that initiated and were successful with the vote kick more then likely really do not care how it may effect the person that was removed, for all we know they may even be joking about while they progress with the content.

    Here we have someone that was removed trying to downplay the actions of the group because their mindsets did not align. Just seems like a huge waste of time, I get seeking validation helps ease the sting of defeat, but as someone else said before fairly certain the OP runs goad now, so while the OP rant did not amount to much, the vote kick got the OP to remember goad. The removal accomplished something. Can the say be said for getting annoyed about being removed from a group?

    Hell I here on a phone responding to a forum post during homeroom so I am also wasting my time, so that was just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post

    If someone get annoyed about being kicked because they feel the reason is arbitrary, who are we to dictate what a valid reason is to kick someone? No matter the intent fact of the matter is majority rules, you need a majority to pass a vote getting annoyed or upset because the group did not align with you and felt the vote was valid no matter the reason just seems silly to me. When you get into the realm of wanting to police vote kick it would only cause more issues overall, probably would result in a more toxic run.
    thats not true at all. people instinctual follow others, and when they vote their not thinking for themselves, their just following the lead of the one that started the vote. Unless the person is afk trying to get a free ride I think it's asinine to kick in a 4 man, it's not that deep and if the other 3 cant keep the group together they should re-evaluate their own play-styles or stop pugging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowanthal View Post
    thats not true at all. people instinctual follow others, and when they vote their not thinking for themselves, their just following the lead of the one that started the vote. Unless the person is afk trying to get a free ride I think it's asinine to kick in a 4 man, it's not that deep and if the other 3 cant keep the group together they should re-evaluate their own play-styles or stop pugging.
    Just say you don't like being kicked and go, no need to make things up to try and prove a point.
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