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  1. #31
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    DreyfusWestmoore's Avatar
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    Dreyfus Westmoore
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    Louisoix
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    Ninja Lv 33
    What was your tank doing? I ran Dzmayel literally yesterday as a Dragoon, and nobody even fell below 50% TP, and I didn't use goad once.
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  2. #32
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Goad!? lol I don't think that has ever been on my list and you don't need it for progression most parties will have some kind of physical range class and tanks shouldn't be out of TP in progression lol
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  3. #33
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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    I personally don't have it on my bars and don't see the point. Outside of someone coming back from a disconnect in the middle of a fight I've never been in a situation where it would actually benefit anyone. But then I'm rarely paired with another melee and I've yet to witness a tank burn his TP before we could kill a trash pack. And if you manage to run out of TP on a boss fight...

    I would say if someone is bottoming out without Goad they either need to work on managing their TP better or their group needs to stop sandbagging and kill mobs faster.
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  4. #34
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Tanks dont get to have it both ways.. you dont get to do super pulls and then cry about somebody not using Goad on you... sorry tank but i used my goad on the other DPS whos TP is sucked up trying to AOE down your massive "look at my giant e-peen" pulls... and hopefully their goad comes to replenish my TP in return...
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  5. #35
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    Curcio's Avatar
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    Tori Yasa
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    If you are the only melee in the party (in a dungeon, doing AoE pulls), you have Goad for the tank.

    If there are two melees in the party, they Goad each other.

    Period. There is no real justification to not have Goad in dungeon parties. Invigorate is not enough to keep AoE sustainable with chained pulls.

    Dungeon-efficient groups will always need Goad. If you and your group decide to take things easy and single target every mob down, then it is not required. But at that point you're also certainly not very efficient in clearing the dungeon.

    It sucks the OP was kicked at the last boss. I think that was rude of the warrior. But it is a difference in playstyles, and you can be kicked from a party for not doing your share if the rest of the group wants to progress as efficiently as they can.
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  6. #36
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DreyfusWestmoore View Post
    What was your tank doing? I ran Dzmayel literally yesterday as a Dragoon, and nobody even fell below 50% TP, and I didn't use goad once.
    Seeing as it was Dzemael, I assume it was a new warrior. Probably Overpower spam thinking it was all he needed.
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  7. #37
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    If they made this comment it is no longer different playstyles it is harassment.
    Asking for goad is harassment now?
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  8. #38
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    Xtrasweettea's Avatar
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    Aelda Schuvorther
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Tanks dont get to have it both ways.. you dont get to do super pulls and then cry about somebody not using Goad on you... sorry tank but i used my goad on the other DPS whos TP is sucked up trying to AOE down your massive "look at my giant e-peen" pulls... and hopefully their goad comes to replenish my TP in return...
    Some of us Tanks wouldn't be doing these "look at my giant e-peen pulls" (especially in a dungeon like Dzemael) if the DPS weren't demanding big pulls and/or pulling mobs and bringing them back to us tanks to pick up.

    Of course, in a perfect run, if I am doing big pulls, the DPS should be able to burn down the mobs before I either run out of TP on WAR and/or Equilibrium is about to come off cooldown for the next pull. Though, that rarely happens and I am sitting at 0 TP with no Equilibrium ready to use. We gotta blame the Tank though, not the DPS's for not pulling their weight, even though they wanted big pulls.
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  9. #39
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    Some of us Tanks wouldn't be doing these "look at my giant e-peen pulls" (especially in a dungeon like Dzemael) if the DPS weren't demanding big pulls and/or pulling mobs and bringing them back to us tanks to pick up.

    Of course, in a perfect run, if I am doing big pulls, the DPS should be able to burn down the mobs before I either run out of TP on WAR and/or Equilibrium is about to come off cooldown for the next pull. Though, that rarely happens and I am sitting at 0 TP with no Equilibrium ready to use. We gotta blame the Tank though, not the DPS's for not pulling their weight, even though they wanted big pulls.
    I can't imagine tanking small pulls though. Boring!
    Especially in Darkhold where there's giant glowing areas that let you take less damage. The dungeon wants you to pull everything.
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  10. #40
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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Crimson Bloodrose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Asking for goad is harassment now?
    Asking for goad no. Asking for goad and then kicking yes.
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