Kicked for not using Goad

[Jim_Berry]

So I'm in Dzemael Darkhold on my Dragoon, out DPSing the tank and other DPS combined when our tank, a warrior, runs out of TP. This is literally the last pull before the final boss. She asks for a goad and I politely tell her I don't have it set up, to give me a second after the fight. And I promptly get kicked from the party.

Now...on higher level content I get it. On difficult or progression, I understand. This was a freaking 44 dungeon. I was carrying my weight and more. Normally I even go that extra mile with goad or what have you, I just hadn't thought to set it up on my Dragoon yet. Just casual leveling, ya know? I just don't understand this level of jerkwadery.

If I am reading this correctly, this mean that you were kicked during battle. I thought kicking couldn't be initiated during battle!?

[shape]

Before the changes Warrior tanks could take flash as a cross class skill, this helped with TP burn during chain pulls.
If you had refused to put Goad on your hotbar. Then yes the Tank would have at least some kind of a reason (a weak one) to act like they did, but this was not the case.
your tank was a glorified arsehole, its best to forget and move on. they wont change their ways. Once an arsehole, always an arsehole.

[Kahnom]

I have Goad on my Mnk/Sam hotbar for 30 days since SB has started but I never have to use it though.
Most dps I've run with Either decent enough that be able to maximize their aoe the mobs to death before they need more TP
OR
Bad Enough that never aoe at all and I'm the one that starve on TP but they never goad me ...
So I changed Goad to Bloodbath or Arm-Length thesedays.

[Okamimaru]

Goad has become an excuse for people not to manage their own TP... so who should receive the goad in a tank vs dps scenario... cuz you can only goad one...

[DreyfusWestmoore]

What was your tank doing? I ran Dzmayel literally yesterday as a Dragoon, and nobody even fell below 50% TP, and I didn't use goad once.

[Dualgunner]

What was your tank doing? I ran Dzmayel literally yesterday as a Dragoon, and nobody even fell below 50% TP, and I didn't use goad once.

Seeing as it was Dzemael, I assume it was a new warrior. Probably Overpower spam thinking it was all he needed.

[Aomine1992]

Goad!? lol I don't think that has ever been on my list and you don't need it for progression most parties will have some kind of physical range class and tanks shouldn't be out of TP in progression lol

[ElHeggunte]

I personally don't have it on my bars and don't see the point. Outside of someone coming back from a disconnect in the middle of a fight I've never been in a situation where it would actually benefit anyone. But then I'm rarely paired with another melee and I've yet to witness a tank burn his TP before we could kill a trash pack. And if you manage to run out of TP on a boss fight...

I would say if someone is bottoming out without Goad they either need to work on managing their TP better or their group needs to stop sandbagging and kill mobs faster.

[Okamimaru]

Tanks dont get to have it both ways.. you dont get to do super pulls and then cry about somebody not using Goad on you... sorry tank but i used my goad on the other DPS whos TP is sucked up trying to AOE down your massive "look at my giant e-peen" pulls... and hopefully their goad comes to replenish my TP in return...

[Xtrasweettea]

Tanks dont get to have it both ways.. you dont get to do super pulls and then cry about somebody not using Goad on you... sorry tank but i used my goad on the other DPS whos TP is sucked up trying to AOE down your massive "look at my giant e-peen" pulls... and hopefully their goad comes to replenish my TP in return...

Some of us Tanks wouldn't be doing these "look at my giant e-peen pulls" (especially in a dungeon like Dzemael) if the DPS weren't demanding big pulls and/or pulling mobs and bringing them back to us tanks to pick up.

Of course, in a perfect run, if I am doing big pulls, the DPS should be able to burn down the mobs before I either run out of TP on WAR and/or Equilibrium is about to come off cooldown for the next pull. Though, that rarely happens and I am sitting at 0 TP with no Equilibrium ready to use. We gotta blame the Tank though, not the DPS's for not pulling their weight, even though they wanted big pulls.