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  1. #51
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    Yeah.... 15k damage difference between THM and ARC. THMs Combos are so over powered and broken. And if you disagree, YOU OBVIOUSLY are playing the class wrong. I mean, ARC obviously now will have 50% of their MP just to use Bloodletter now by SE's logic.

    Please, that picture doesn't prove anything. You had two THMs. High parse damage tends to show someone who does NO assisting, NO asset to the fight besides dealing damage. I'd rather have a non-assisting archer, which will make the fight go faster, than a parse whoring THM who thinks going above 50k is anything to post on these forums about. Do that with 3 other ARC and I'll be impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan
    Prolly live in their mommy's basement playing the game 23/7.

  2. #52
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    CrystalObsidian's Avatar
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    Crystal Obsidian
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I agree, MP is a huge problem now..I can hardly solo anything anymore, and if I'm with a group, I do that same thing often..stand in a corner trying to recover mp >.> If I could put cnj's blissful mind on my thm, it'd probably help. But I can't because "you can't equip abilities from other classes" >.<

    Soooo yeah, the thm's own abilities and one or two from other classes that I was *somehow* able to equip don't help..
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  3. #53
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Would love it if they made the 2 mp regaining abilities from conj DoW useable and not just con, would probably be an easy adjustment and fix the issue somewhat at least.
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  4. #54
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    thm is good as it is now, add in a convert and the issue is over. thm has the highest spike dmg of all classes w/o question. You are limited by MP if you eliminate the MP management as others have said THM > everything like it was pre 1.18 where THM was the main tank main healer and main DPS all at the same time.
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  5. #55
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by tachikoma View Post
    thm is good as it is now, add in a convert and the issue is over. thm has the highest spike dmg of all classes w/o question. You are limited by MP if you eliminate the MP management as others have said THM > everything like it was pre 1.18 where THM was the main tank main healer and main DPS all at the same time.
    except for THM will not be main tank and main healer so not a real good comparison.
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  6. #56
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    Forerunner's Avatar
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    Danny Leonhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Ifrit weapon's additional fire damage isnt horrible on ifrit
    Fire spells HEAL ifrit.
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  7. #57
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    Xianghua's Avatar
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    Fiona Valencia
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    The MP is fine the way it is. Just like when cure first costed more MP. People just have to adapt and learn how to manage MP to be more efficient.
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  8. #58
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    Saskia Sinwolf
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 73
    I really don't understand the problem. I have 50 THM on my other character and I really dont have MP problems. I mean yea if I go all out and try to nuke like crazy then yea I run out quick lol. But I usually just play it like a blm I toss out a few nukes to get a combo and wait (not forever like 20 seconds or so) see what my enmity is at, if its safe, nuke some more. Not trying to say I'm super awesome or anything lol. Just saying its not hard to manage your mp. Just dont go all nuke happy lol.

    I really dont want them to lower the mp cost of spells though cause then they will have to lower the damage. I'm just waiting to see how 1.21 goes and maybe it will fix the problem people are having with mp consumption.
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  9. #59
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    Lyndel Qa'tre
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50


    All DPS are ARCs.

    This isn't even the most DPS I've pushed with Arc, or seen pushed with ARC. I've seen it topped off at about 75 DPS.

    On a mediocre run with THM I managed to pull off about 55 DPS, and on a bad run where My bind resisted on Whiskerwall, And I got Eagle Eye Shot from Woolwary, I pulled about 40 DPS.

    In the optimal conditions, I'm positive THM Could almost stand toe-toe with ARC. I've found my biggest issue is the most of my dmg can come from P1, However if you have hate on everything come entering P2, You are going to get your ass mercilessly pounded.

    I even thought this through- Isn't going all out and getting a threat wipe the best option?

    In most cases, it might be, however if Whiskerwall decides to stick on me and avoid every shadowbind and blizara bind and stays on me even after sanguine right, the entire strategy becames moot.
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  10. #60
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    If you are doing more than 60k on moogle, either all the other DPS are trash and don't know how to use bind, or you are taking too long to kill them. I've hit more than 80k on moogle when the other DPS were completely garbage and it took us almost the full 30 minutes to kill because the king or whm spammed heals. I don't see why people boast "dude, i did 75k on moogle fight" or "dude, i did more than 20k on ifrit". Just shows how bad your group is imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan
    Prolly live in their mommy's basement playing the game 23/7.

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