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    FFXIV 2.0 was essentially deemed a salvage project Square Enix never believed would become remotely as profitable as it did. A fairly large portion of XIV's profits are diverted to other things; it funded FFXV's development and will be doing the same for FFVII: Remake. Yoshida has little control over what Square Enix decides. It's easy enough for us to complain but the fault lies with Square not Yoshida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    I'm just waiting for the next FF MMO or XI Mobile.
    What happened to that project?

    About on topic, I agree with some if the messages here. Yoshida has no control over the money -or little as it is - to decide on what it should be invested. Also, ARR was made at the same time they were giving the final updates to 1.0 to try and relaunch the game, we don't know how the game is coded also. We also have to take into account the time they have to invest on reworking parts of the game while at the same time they are giving us fresh content every now and then.

    I can be patient, the game has changed A LOT since it's relaunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darker_Midnight View Post
    Ever considered that all the features being asked for would require an overhaul of the existing engine (or, God forbid, a new engine) to support these features? The number of bugs this could cause if not handled meticulously and carefully would far outweigh any benefits the minority population asking for these features at the moment give.

    Nevermind the cost and manpower this would require when the budget sheet likely shows new content would - per man hour - likely be a better return on investment.

    Either you're going to get these in a new FF MMO (FF18? :P), or have to find an MMO that supports these features.

    Or you might get them in FFXIV, just... not on _your_ timetable.
    This has pretty much been the default response for anything customization-related by the community.

    It's pretty sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhamkyong View Post
    What happened to that project?
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    FFXI mobile is still happening supposedly, its moved up on Nexon's production lineup from being last on the list to I think 4th? I forget the exact article but hope is still there.
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    Hmm ... all I want to add to this thread is that this reminds me of overmodding in other games. "Mod it till it breaks". Do you really simply definitely do-or-die must have more glamour options, on risk of affecting the stability and stress on the whole game and its servers? While glamour would probably be not that big of a stress-factor by itself, little bits stress can add up and eventually cause the "breaking point" of overmodding. The last straw too, could come from anywhere ... tiniest of mods have broken my saves ...

    At any rate, I'd rather play a smooth polished game than an overmodded heavily customized feature-explosion of a game. It's not like we don't have glamour options at all.

    Edit: While I too would like to see more variety in events besides Yokai Watch (not my taste, won't participate in it at all), I keep in mind that I haven't even finished all the already in-game questlines yet. So there's no actual lack of content either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho86 View Post
    FFXI mobile is still happening supposedly, its moved up on Nexon's production lineup from being last on the list to I think 4th? I forget the exact article but hope is still there.
    I will have to look for it then to see if there are news then, thanks for the info!

    Quote Originally Posted by Raqrie_Tohka View Post
    Hmm ... all I want to add to this thread is that this reminds me of overmodding in other games. "Mod it till it breaks". Do you really simply definitely do-or-die must have more glamour options, on risk of affecting the stability and stress on the whole game and its servers? While glamour would probably be not that big of a stress-factor by itself, little bits stress can add up and eventually cause the "breaking point" of overmodding. The last straw too, could come from anywhere ... tiniest of mods have broken my saves ...

    At any rate, I'd rather play a smooth polished game than an overmodded heavily customized feature-explosion of a game. It's not like we don't have glamour options at all.

    I totally agree on that.

    The problem is that certain classes have more variety of glamour than others in terms of their choice of appearance. A Paladin / Dark / Warrior can choose to wear tunic, light clothing if you prefer and give your character look like a "wanderer" instead of a full plated character, to give a small example. A caster has it difficult to go dressed in armor as if he were a battle mage prepared to cast spells, the pieces of choice are much smaller numbers. Without going too far, the tunic of the Creation marks is perfect except for one thing -in my opinion- and is that once again it abuses the wide sleeves and completely disables any glamor you have in the gloves -and the creation gloves become disabled- even if you have it beyond the elbow, not like that of WHM that is perfect for it.

    It is an example, but for that reason has always been asked for more freedom to choose.
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    I still think after all these years they should have kept Tanaka. Name shame all you want but he did have MMO experience and at least tried to branch out. And could actually try things even if they weren't that successful.

    I guess we should be fortunate we don't get excuses like "We can add a few new player face options but it'll cost you a raid tier".
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    Well. I guess if you can't deal with their business reasons you'd hate to hear the real reasons..

    I'm sure it's a mixture of we can't because of the deadlines that are given to them. The ground level people work hard and they have very little time to do it sometimes. They also don't get their standard 8-5 job. So yes there's some guy who has 4 jobs on him and he's ready to tie a noose around his neck. As long as you're okay with that being the end result so you can color your gear 5 more times different ways and don't care about a life..more power to you. Someone posted, either here or reddit on how rough some of these people work, and the lack of credit they get is sad, Yoshi-P included who travels and works a tremendous amount.

    Even our NA mods. We always complain but never thank them. Translators, the music..everything. It doesn't sound like it's much or related to your requests but a boost in morale, goes a very long way sometimes in production.

    Others it's because it's not on their priority list. You may want 3 jobs, but the higher ups who pay for this to keep going do not see the benefit in some of our requests. You're paying them to make a world you enjoy playing in that also gives them money. You've never had a supervisor that had zero clue who to do the jobs they supervise? For the most part that's what it's like.

    So you might have some guy in a suit and is presented with glamour solutions. They look at it and see no $$, instead lets work on new emotes and outfits to add the the mog station! Odins horse isn't selling..why? It can't fly! Lets work on that then people will buy..with their precious money. Dance puppets dance!!!

    So yes, because you want it doesn't mean it's very useful. Now I know you'll pick the one example that counters that, there's exceptions to everything. Glamour logs might be one of them. At least to me, it's the one that's really important, doesn't mean it's useful to the higher ups. To them it may seem like.

    I never finished Yo-kai watch, so I'm glad it's back. Just because you finished it like others doesn't mean it needs to go away. Like the lightning event, they gave it ample time for everyone to get. People got sick of it and now it's on the mog station. This will follow the same yellow brick road.

    Or just accept the harsh truth like I have when I think of something for the game and get told no...and that's part of being an adult is accepting things you don't like, and running with it. You're not getting 3 jobs.

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    No go you lil scamp! Go save the world!
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    Much of the income generated from this game we know goes to other SE projects but that has more to do with the higher ups and investors i would think.
    Someone mentioned 35 million even if that was actual fact that really does not cover much. Creating video games and all that is involved is far more then some of you seem to think.
    I will however state that the servers should have been upgraded for Stormblood not simply moved like they seem to have done, the code is out dated yes but alas what can one do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhamkyong View Post
    The problem is that certain classes have more variety of glamour than others in terms of their choice of appearance. A Paladin / Dark / Warrior can choose to wear tunic, light clothing if you prefer and give your character look like a "wanderer" instead of a full plated character, to give a small example. A caster has it difficult to go dressed in armor as if he were a battle mage prepared to cast spells, the pieces of choice are much smaller numbers. Without going too far, the tunic of the Creation marks is perfect except for one thing -in my opinion- and is that once again it abuses the wide sleeves and completely disables any glamor you have in the gloves -and the creation gloves become disabled- even if you have it beyond the elbow, not like that of WHM that is perfect for it.
    Class and level restrictions are stupid, and have been stupid from the very start. The one possible justification for them (mages should look like mages, tanks should look like tanks) was tossed aside ages ago thanks to the many skimpy glamour options tanks can wear. And, unless SE spaghetti-coded the system in ways I can't even begin to fathom, removing these restrictions should be the work of about a half hour. (Somewhere, in the code there should be a check that asks, "Can this glamour be shown for this class/level?" Remove that check, and voila.)

    For most of the things the OP is suggesting, though, there's a lot of dev effort involved. Yoshi P says "I can't" not because they actually can't, but because it's a lot quicker and easier to understand than, "We could, but currently we don't consider it to be worth the investment of man hours when balanced against the revenue lost for not having this feature."

    In the case of three jobs, specifically, the Dev team pretty nearly killed themselves to get three jobs into Heavensward - enough that they needed to take a break afterwards such that it delayed patch 3.1 several weeks - and even with that, Machinist was clearly rushed, being very nearly a BRD clone and missing several features SE had suggested it would have (like several interchangeable attachments, instead of just Guass Barrel).
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