Battle Chat Parser

[Astral145]

Chat Log could read as follows:
Damage Dealt [30.0s] 4000/s - 120000 total Damage - 32% crit - 40% Direct hit.

With the example above I can see that I can achieve 4000 damage per second in my first 30 seconds with a total damage of 120000. I can take that information and see if i can improve my opener. Maybe i can squeeze out a little a more dps by placing this OGCD here instead of there... I can even compare notes with friends to see if its my rotation or if its gear/stats related.

Allow for options for when the parser gives you a read out. So instead of it just giving you damage read out per skill it simply gives you a DPS meter every 20 secs or 30 secs so it does't fill up your chat box with numbers... Problem solved.

The battle chat is already built for such a parser it would take very little resources to create this type of parser for everyone to use.

DCUO did something like that and never once heard a complaint about it.

The screen shot below shows a damage read out every 10 secs.



All I want is a way to see my DPS so I can see where i can improve.

[NintenPyjak64]

There is the third party parser, Advanced Combat Tracker, that reads from the battle log and gives you your numbers (if you're on PC. PS4 is SOL). Does exactly what you're looking for, and goes the extra mile with individual ability damage, how much a boss's attack did, your crit rate, etc

Devs have a pretty hard stance on parsers, so really it's "fight club rules" with them. It's been brought up numerous times that people want an ingame parser to improve with, but they keep saying no (sadly enough)

[Astral145]

There is the third party parser, Advanced Combat Tracker, that reads from the battle log and gives you your numbers (if you're on PC. PS4 is SOL). Does exactly what you're looking for, and goes the extra mile with individual ability damage, how much a boss's attack did, your crit rate, etc

Unfortunatly we cant use 3rd party applications on PS4. I am a PS4 user and its very frustrating to not be able to see my dps. I have to depend on PC players that have parcers to help me improve and at times that is frustrating.

[NintenPyjak64]

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I can imagine it is. Sadly toxic players have ruined the image of a parser for the community, so the odds of an official one are slim to none

The only forseeable way is addons finally being allowed, but SE loves to dance around it whenever it's brought up. They say they're still working on it, but with how many times it's being "pushed back", it's never going to happen

[Astral145]

I can imagine it is. Sadly toxic players have ruined the image of a parser for the community, so the odds of an official one are slim to none

I don't see how individual parsers can be any more toxic then groups kicking players due to difference in play style. Or kicking players for being terrible at healing or not pushing out some damage as a healer. All of the above are toxic for the player base yet the GM's allow this to happen.

Most modern MMO's have some kind of built in damage reader. With all the dps checks in FFXIV there is no real reason as to why we cant have "individual" (Not Group) parsers.

[Ilan]

I can imagine it is. Sadly toxic players have ruined the image of a parser for the community, so the odds of an official one are slim to none

The only forseeable way is addons finally being allowed, but SE loves to dance around it whenever it's brought up. They say they're still working on it, but with how many times it's being "pushed back", it's never going to happen

What toxic players? Sorry, compared to 99% of all other MMORPG's the com in FF14 is pure gold and a parser would not change a thing. If someone wants to be toxic, he will be that anyway. SE has simply no trust in their own community.
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SSS is in no way a proper replacement for a parser. There is no possibility to analyse your rotation, no mechanic that you have to react to and so on. Its a nice toy and nothing more.

[NintenPyjak64]

What toxic players?

The toxic players meaning those who actively used the parser to harass people, for the sake of harassing people. I can remember a good deal of complaints about people using the parsers for harassment, hell back in the i90 days, I was harassed myself on an alt for having low numbers with my horrible gear (doing Wanderer's Palace NM for tomes to get that better gear). They aren't the effect of a parser for sure, but sadly a lot of people do see it as that, and SE did as well, so they made a decision on it as a business.

Don't misunderstand me, I've played MMOs for years, and in those MMOs, especially WoW, I've seen less toxicity over DPS numbers then anything. I'm in full support of an official parser

SSS is in no way a proper replacement for a parser. There is no possibility to analyse your rotation, no mechanic that you have to react to and so on. Its a nice toy and nothing more.

Could not agree more. In a good run of the O4S dummy, I'm lucky to even see a second TFC. If I need to perform mechanics I want to try to optimize my DPS while performing mechanics. SSS will in no way, shape or form help me with that. Clearing it may be a baseline for your gear and your knowledge of your rotation, but putting that rotation into practice while executing the actual fight is another beast all together

[Astral145]

The toxic players meaning those who actively used the parser to harass people, for the sake of harassing people. They aren't the effect of a parser for sure, but sadly a lot of people do see it as that, and SE did as well, so they made a decision on it as a business.

Indeed its true they can harass players for not pushing out numbers but its also true that they will complain or even kick healers for not dpsing. Anyway my point is players that harass other players will continue to do so with or w/out a parser.

On the flip side im not asking for a group parser all I want is a parser just for myself so i can see if im doing my job at its fullest. Granted I wouldn't mind a group parser but at the end of the day having my own parser that gives me an accurate dps would greatly improved the player base that wants to get better. Which i believe will greatly out weigh any negative pushback.

[NintenPyjak64]

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On top of allowing things like that, they constantly add DPS checks, yet give us no way to check DPS. SSS was their answer and it's beyond horrible.

What if I need to move for a mechanic, or I'm forced out of bounds to deal with mechanics (timesgates in A12S, the tank and 1 DPS getting forced to fight an add in A4, etc). That is going to tank DPS. Then looking at Monk, even DRG to an extent, SSS is the worst way imaginable to check DPS. Brotherhood is useless as crap which means I'm a slave to Deep Meditation RNG. The only way to get accurate reads is from actual raid content, not a training dummy

[Kabooa]

All SSS states is that you know your basic class mechanics well enough to perform in the given encounter. You have to adjust to mechanics and figure out where your opportunities to go to pound town are, but if you can beat the dummy, you are geared enough / have a good enough understanding that you can clear the encounter.

Also there's a website that lets you turn SSS into a basic meter.