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    Player
    Hippo's Avatar
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    Character
    Miru Miru
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    Gungnir
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60

    Savage requirements

    Now that savage raids had been out for a while, is it acceptable for me to join O1S and O2S with level V material? I intend to use RF and play as a AST.
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    Akatsubaki Dovakin
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    With grade 6 materia so easy to get there is no reason not to use it, especially since it is literally over 3x better than gr5. If you have any crafted gear use the gr 5 for overmelds
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    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    You could join with zero melds. I wouldn't suggest it but people care far more about how competent you are playing your job than your melds.
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    Pond Hollow
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    You can go in with whatever you like; you'll perform in the manner you are prepared to do, and people can easily be carried in V1S and V2S. Go in and see how you stack up, and you'd like to improve, it is advisable to do some hunts and get those VIs.
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    LunaChild's Avatar
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    Belmont Blanc
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    320s with V melded are fine IMO, below that, not look quite good.
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    Altena Trife
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    While competency is the most important thing, you're hindering your potential by sticking with V's.
    I consider it a little insulting when someone goes in with less than their most potential and expecting others to carry a portion of that weight.
    This may possibly be due to my personal mentality of ensuring I am entering a raid with nothing less than my best effort.
    This includes not using food as well..

    Those "little bits" all add up and put less strain on everyone else to carry a portion of the weight that you're slacking on by not going in with your highest potential.
    Those "little bits" are actually a "lot of bits" when you're talking V's vs VI's.
    Do note - when I say "carry" I simply mean you aren't putting in as much effort as you can.

    I don't really see any excuse to only use V's in safe slots these days.. Especially considering they are so cheap now (100k per, worst case on my server).
    If you don't have the gil to spend on them, then they are easily obtainable through roulettes (if you have a tank at 60+) and hunts.

    Why opt-out on free stats? It's honestly very little effort to meld properly these days.
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    Last edited by Altena; 09-06-2017 at 02:01 PM.

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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Character
    Mi An
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    • For learning, you're good to go with tome gear and nothing else. Rule of thumb: when x IL required, x+10 makes things much more easy;
    • If you know mechanics and don't mess anything, you're good to make the kill;
    • If you're on 90th and use melding, your kill will be faster. Some mechanic skip may also happen and kill will be more faster;
    • More power always better. Fill that empty slots with useful stuff!
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    Character
    Geraru Raru
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    As they said, gear is not going to be a problem, specially in O1S and O2S, but there's no reason why you shouldn't try to go for VIs... Getting some VI materia is super easy with hunts or leveling roulette as a healer/tank.
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    Character
    Purple Rain
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    If you've settled on AST as your main job, there's no reason for you to not meld VI on stuff that'll last you for a bit. Grade V is, imo, fine on the pieces you're planning to replace really fast though.

    Last week I had a person I had to trick... I mean persuade to join us for OS1+ learning to get a full FC group. They only had one tank job at 70 and hadn't geared it at all since they were planning to main something entirely different. We got them to i318 and melded their gear with grade V direct hit materias. They managed fine (as off tank), and we cleard OS1 and OS2 and got to the end of book phase in OS3.
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    Character
    Bravo Whiskey
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    While you can complete both fights, I'd say it's still unacceptable. Even queueing in DF/RF I expect people to put in minimal effort - in this case, slot VI's. There's literally no reason not too.
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