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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    Hello, I hope people don't mind if I make this topic relevant again because I do believe POTD has a lot of issues compared to HoH.

    Given this is from the stormblood era (this particular topic), but the problems listed are still a problem as of 2022, and I've been pretty irritated after all these years nothing has been done about it. I don't mind a challenge myself, but POTD has the problem of going overboard in everything damage and Monsters have tons of defense (this wouldn't be a problem if it were not for the limited selection of Job Skill Rotations), and I really don't like the fact how much of a tight DPS check that 180 boss has for solo runs and the insane gymnastics you have to do with the 190 boss (because if you screw up once you're dead since that boss hits like a truck).

    It can take a day or two just to get back to those floors if you failed (depending how much free time you have), and that is pretty annoying compared to HoH.

    There is also the matter of the outdated pomander selection, compared to HoH which is actually way more balanced for solo runs but the old original POTD pomanders are very unbalanced and with combined with bad RNG you better be praying to RNGesus.

    It would be nice if the Devs. imported the changes from HOH into POTD just so its not some anxiety run from 1 to 200.

    I tried for so long clearing POTD, but I just can't see myself doing it without extreme luck.

    Edit -

    Another reason I like to make this relevant again because if the next new deep dungeon ends up having the same issues then they're not listening to the playerbase.
    Would prefer not to nerf PoTD tbh. Necromancer is an extremely hard to get title for a reason and to nerf PoTD would kinda nerf the value of it. Can we please leave one of the few remaining bits of challenging content in the game alone and just see what they do with the new one first? Maybe it'll be so braindead we can all complete it within a day or two.
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  2. #72
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    Kurotora Iga
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    How about no and if anything git gud.... and a bit lucky as well.

    These titles is not supposed to come easy, so it is a no go from here.
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    Yeah I have given up on doing this content solo. I am trying it with a friend as a duo and with him and another friend as a trio and even there the 180+ floors are too much.
    I hope that the next deep dungeon is a bit better in that regard.

    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Would prefer not to nerf PoTD tbh. Necromancer is an extremely hard to get title for a reason and to nerf PoTD would kinda nerf the value of it. Can we please leave one of the few remaining bits of challenging content in the game alone and just see what they do with the new one first? Maybe it'll be so braindead we can all complete it within a day or two.
    If it was only challenging I would agree but there is still way too much RNG involved. We had runs where we had one chimaera patrol after the other with barely any poms left. That run did end when we spawned into a new room with only one way forward and three wandering monsters on us...the next time when we were there as a trio we bascially got one manticore pom after the other. The wandering monsters and quite a few of the floors were a absolute joke with that.

    As long as such RNG exist its far away from a fair challenge. It bascially means that a run can be screwed by something out of your own hand.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 10-17-2022 at 11:31 PM.

  4. #74
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    Congratulations on clearing PoTD solo! (it was harder in 6.2) you've accomplished one of the most difficult (it was harder in 6.2) challenges in the game (it was harder in 6.2) and earned the Necromancer title (it was harder in 6.2) to show off to all your "friends" (it was harder in 6.2)
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    You can always give unsolicited advice, it's always morally correct

  5. #75
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    I'm not sure why this old thread was resurrected but one thing to keep in mind is the OP has gone on to clear PotD solo on every single job and is in the top 5 scores on clearing PotD solo for multiple jobs. So he did go onto master this content. You can watch him pretty regularly stream himself doing it if you need pointers on getting the clear.
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    I disagree that it needs to be toned down. The game needs difficult activities to give people truly meaningful and eye-catching titles. Sadly, there aren't enough of those in the game. Anytime I see a Necromancer, I know that person's gone through a lot of challenging things to get it. Reducing the difficulty would cheapen the achievement and title.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    I'm not sure why this old thread was resurrected but one thing to keep in mind is the OP has gone on to clear PotD solo on every single job and is in the top 5 scores on clearing PotD solo for multiple jobs. So he did go onto master this content. You can watch him pretty regularly stream himself doing it if you need pointers on getting the clear.
    I feel like most people are not going to read your post and instead just go straight to "git gud!"
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  8. #78
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    It's rough, both my main and sprout alt are necromancers, but people have ironed out strats that at this point I'd say necromancer isn't as difficult to obtain as it used to be. Just practice and pray half of your floors aren't amnesia or no items. The biggest issue with potd at that point is just the sheer amount of time per run it takes.

    The job(s) that probably have the hardest time clearing is AST due to poor personal dps.
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  9. #79
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    White Flow
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    I think you should ask the OP again how he see it in current state (It would be nice if he would give a feedback for the current state too).

    For my part i think its fine how it is. Sure there wasnt any changes for Potd directly but Class changes and better buff food make it already easier over time. (Just think how much more max hp you have now compared to older times)

    Same for the class changes, like adding sleep for Caster or how much more powerfull MCH is compared to the older versions in lvl 60 areas.

    Overall i am excited for the new one and hope it will be more "challenging" as HoH or even Potd.

    EDIT: just from some vids about RDM clears at floor 190, in past RDM had some around 16850 Max hp now you easily pass 18600, wich are +2k hp compared to older patches. (Like +10% hp gain)
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    Last edited by WhiteFlow; 10-18-2022 at 06:12 AM.

  10. #80
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    As a heads up the OP just got into AGDQ for running POTD 171-180 solo with no mouse. This will be the first time FF14 has been represented at AGDQ!
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