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  1. #1
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    Eir_Z's Avatar
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    Eir Zurivost
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 70

    MCH feels like it's missing an oGCD

    There's spots throughout MCH's sustained rotation that feel like you could be hitting another offensive oGCD or some sort of buff/debuff. There's a spot for it during wildfire, the downtime afterwards, and the later half of heat building before another wildfire. Something like replacing our useless knock back with a 15s or 20s 100-150 potency skill would fill that void. Or, perhaps drop Ricochet's recast to 30s since Gauss Round is a 200 potency attack on a 15s recast.

    There's a bunch of other things that could be done to MCH for 4.1 (and, to be honest, I'm a little anxious to see how the rework fairs...), but this is something that just struck me as weird. The job is very active throughout the rest of the rotation except for a couple moments where you're just spinning on a Split Shot hoping for a proc without anything else to do because all of your oGCDs are on cooldown.
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    Pence's Avatar
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    Bravo Whiskey
    World
    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    IDK, my WF has an oGCD after every GCD. Unless you're getting 6 GCD's inside WF, which is not the norm and should not be even further rewarded.
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    Nola Ustrina
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    Cactuar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Unfortunately, if they were to add another oGCD, the rotation would just be to find space for it in your OH+WF like every other oGCD. It's just how the job is played, every minute you throw everything you have into your OH+WF, then for like 50 seconds, you refresh Hot Shot, get your GB back up, get your Turret back up, and manage your Heat with your ammo so that you can immediately go into your next OH+WF. Been kinda backing off MCH for that reason as I find it kinda dull, but I am hoping 4.1 changes fix that.
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Ixon View Post
    Been kinda backing off MCH for that reason as I find it kinda dull, but I am hoping 4.1 changes fix that.
    Yeah...no. I don't expect any changes to that. They've doubled down on that design when they trivialized heat management by halving the values, extended Hot Shot to make the downtime even less engaging and buffed Overheat.

    *shrug* I've just given up on it.
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I just want grenado back.
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    Glory to Mankind

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    Astrea Blackthorne
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    Siren
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    Monk Lv 70
    Yea, it's called Lead Shot.
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Adamantoise
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    Sage Lv 100
    While I also sometimes feel like it's missing an oGCD, it's probably more me missing the timing to line up my oGCDs nicely in my Wildfire window.

    That being said, however, I would like a Tornado Kick-like action for Gauss Barrel as well, just so the heat mechanic works a little nicer in lower levels.
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    Rhinos Sandrock
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Cooldown is the missing oGCD. Need to un-nerf heat generation to it can be used more outside WF.
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    Naomi Enami
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Seems to me a request for a buff for a job that's already creeping up to be in the upper half of highest DPS between the DPS classes. Not every GCD needs to be followed by an oGCD. But to be fair I find MCH a very fast paced job. I think it would only be fair if hey split an existing oGCD's damage into two abilities but why bloat buttons when SE was trying to "unbloat" them.

    But I understand the "missing button" feeling as I get htat feeling with DRK too.
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  10. #10
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    Eir Zurivost
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Agreed. I liked the amount of heat generation at launch. I actually wanted Hot Shot to generate even more heat to make screw ups less punishing. It’d be interesting if Cooldown and HS had equal heat numbers.
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