Just another thread asking for in-game parsing for ps4 users

[HyoMinPark]

No, see this is why its hard for people to get behind parsers when people talk like this. A personal parser will allow someone to see what works better for gear and their class and gauge whether or not something worked out better vs mechanics but most importantly "improve". The problem with Comparing to others is a disparity in ilvls and situation. A full time off tank is going to do a lot more than a full time main tank etc...

Personal parsers are the best way to go about it and leaves it up to the player to decide how and if they want to use it. That is all there is to it.

Except that personal parsers would be completely useless in content where parsing actually matters: that is, current Extreme Primals and Savage Raids (and soon to be the Super Savage/Ultimate raid). You can't look at group DPS in personal parsers, and asking for all 8 members to post said parses in some public chat channel is just completely unnecessary work when a group parser for such content already has all the information there and readily available. Group DPS is what matters when it comes to clearing these fights, and meeting the enrage timer. Sure, to an extent, personal DPS is also important, but without a group parser, statics and parties would have no easy, readily accessible way of knowing whether the thing that was causing them to fail is individual DPS or group DPS; individual failings with healing; individual failings with tanking. The list goes on.

Parsers don't matter for "casual" content that don't have enrages (e.g., 4-man dungeons and 24-man alliance raids). But they do matter in 8-man content. They are used for personal improvement, yes, but a pervasive, primary function of parsers is use in static/8-man settings to judge group DPS and see if the party has what it takes to clear the content, or if they need to work on something. This is where using parsers in conjunction with a certain website becomes invaluably useful. I know that, without using both resources when analyzing my own static's performance in V3S progression, we would not have been able to pinpoint the issues that were holding us back, and work on fixing them.

That's something an individual parser cannot give. While I'm not opposed to the idea of individual, personal parsers, I think that content reliant on good group DPS in order to meet enrage should call for a party parser. Again, it's not like SE is going to suddenly make harassing others a-okay with the implementation of such a thing. I doubt they'll ever change their stance on parsers or implement one in-game, considering that arguments like this always arise when someone, like the OP of the thread, just innocently requests a parser for personal use, but I still like to throw in my two cents into the discussions. It's tiring seeing one side claim how "bad" parsers are, and how "toxic" everyone that parses is; such sweeping generalizations really irk me. There are, of course, bad apples in every bunch, but people shouldn't blame the tool because those bad apples use it incorrectly.

There is NO reason anyone would want to see the parse of anyone other than yourself unless you want to judge said player's performance or to rub your e-peen.

Both of those reasons are toxic and have no place in this game.
So yeah, outside of personal parsing, this will NEVER be implemented.

See what I wrote above. Personal parsers would be completely useless in 8-man content that actually calls for decent group DPS to meet enrage timers.