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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazaruz View Post
    ignorant of the opposing view
    Not ignorant. They just might be pointing out the holes in the argument you are using because of the fact you cannot possibly know the outcome if SE added an official parser; last time I checked humans cannot foresee the future like in myths and legends.

    If they did add one probationary, to test it, and suddenly the game had way more rude people than now, specifically using the official parser to harass, then you could claim you were right, but...how can you claim it yet? It hasn't happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazaruz View Post
    labouring under some kind of delusion that just because THEY arent a complete asshole, it apparently means every single person ever that also parses, are not guilty of incredibly toxic behaviour
    There are people who are anti-parser that actually do demonize anyone who uses one even if said person never uses it beyond their personal use and never harasses anyone. I mean you have someone in this thread alone who basically reports anyone they 'think' is using one; harassment or not. So you might not be realizing that some people may be defending themselves on this point and not actually claiming that no one is guilty of toxic behavior.

    The real question is would that toxic behavior still exist even if the parser didn't?

    A parser is just 1's and 0's in a computer, that doesn't turn someone into a jerk all on its own. So toxic behavior is present even without a parser (all of the toxic behavior I've seen while playing this game was nothing to do with parsers and I've been playing for 4 years for example).

    The problem is those rude people you may have come across, do you think if they had no parser at all they would somehow not be jerks? We don't know and that's the problem with doing all this guesswork. If a player is a rude player then without a parser they may just find anything else they can find to harass someone with.

    Harassment in any form is against ToS so it really isn't any different than now. An official parser does not mean "you have permission to harass".

    I posted this in another thread and it basically explains the problem with the argument of "if you add an official parser people will harass more with it".

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    The only thing I can say is human beings aren't fortune tellers. We can't say one way or the other if the game would turn out worse, better, or end up exactly the same as now with an official parser. We simply do not know unless they add one so doing guesswork or pretending we know how people will behave is pointless.

    Before people say "...but WoW...".

    Comparing this community to other MMO communities is also pointless because this community is not the same as other ones and vice versa so you cannot use another game to predict behavior in this one unless you did a very comprehensive study on the types of people playing both games, but no one has the resources or time to do such a study. The most we can do is "an educated guess" which is still nowhere near a conclusion based on fact.
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    Last edited by Miste; 09-07-2017 at 08:19 AM.