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  1. #71
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    Sorry if I give bad reports, but it is what it is. Parsers are. Against the rules. All it leads to is people harassing others. Yeah, some may not say anything, but alone of people do.

    Maybe I'm a bit extreme about it? Absolutely.

    But. I feel if you use a parser, when it's specifically against the rules because it causes division amongst players unnecessarily, that it really should be a long and/or permanent ban situation.

    I honestly wouldn't be against even asking for a parser netting you a Ban. Because it means you are asking to break the rules.


    Sure, most of you will be against me on this. But I'm very strongly against it.
    Oh rly?

    Oh wow. Ok.

    I'll tell you how extreme I'm gonna be about this post of yours.

    I'm gonna take it and send it to a GM. I'll file it under report abuse.

    I'm not gonna ask for a ban. That would be the easy way out for you. Instead, I'll ask that they flag you. Permanently.

    I hope every single time you file a report, whether its legit or not (because I'm quoting your extremism here), they don't even bother reading it and they automatically thrash it.

    I hope every single time your name pops up, someone just reads your history info of report abuse and know not to bother with you.

    You quote rules but you willingly admit you're prepared to file a bad report just on a feel. Meaning someone could raid with you and just be like "hey, I don't think you did good there" and--just because you feel like it--report them for parse use because it sounded like they were using one.

    Far better would it have been for you not to post this at all. Seriously. Should've adopted the same policy SE has towards parse users: Don't ask, don't tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  2. #72
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    Sorry if I give bad reports, but it is what it is. Parsers are. Against the rules. All it leads to is people harassing others. Yeah, some may not say anything, but alone of people do.

    Maybe I'm a bit extreme about it? Absolutely.

    But. I feel if you use a parser, when it's specifically against the rules because it causes division amongst players unnecessarily, that it really should be a long and/or permanent ban situation.

    I honestly wouldn't be against even asking for a parser netting you a Ban. Because it means you are asking to break the rules.


    Sure, most of you will be against me on this. But I'm very strongly against it.
    Parsers are beneficial to use for improvement and i'd only report people IF they are berating others with the parser. You have the right to report any parser but they aren't bad people and you're just making yourself look like a tool.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    You quote rules but you willingly admit you're prepared to file a bad report just on a feel. Meaning someone could raid with you and just be like "hey, I don't think you did good there" and--just because you feel like it--report them for parse use because it sounded like they were using one.
    If you read my other post you'd see I explained they have to say something that makes it seem like they are using one.

    If they say something that Makes it seem like they are using one yes, I'll gladly file a report. If its false I'm sorry, but oh well, I'd rather file a report against someone who could be using one and potentially abusing players.

    Now if they say something like "hey, I noticed your using this move before or after this other move, of you switched it you'd do more damage." then no, I won't report something genuinely helpful sounding like that.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    Now if they say something like "hey, I noticed your using this move before or after this other move, of you switched it you'd do more damage." then no, I won't report something genuinely helpful sounding like that.
    Honestly, you shot yourself on the foot after the very first post. Not only does it show bad manners but also goes againts what you say ''harrasment'' You call parsing a harrasment, pretty much saying a gun kills people when it's actually the person who triggers it. A parser isn't bad, it depends on a whole on the person who use it.
    And legit I see more harrasment of people who proclaim they can have clears because they have the right. You have no right to clear any content with bad attitude againts team mates nor do you have right to drag down 3-7 and 23 people because you simply can't pick up yyour own fight to improve.

    You report people even when someone wil say someone is doing low dps, you can even notice that WITHOUT a parser, not always but some cases. You gonna fill in reports about ps4 players having an opinion too? I don't care if you gonna report people because eventually they will get tired of the false reports and you need to just stick with it honestly.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    If you read my other post you'd see I explained they have to say something that makes it seem like they are using one.

    If they say something that Makes it seem like they are using one yes, I'll gladly file a report. If its false I'm sorry, but oh well, I'd rather file a report against someone who could be using one and potentially abusing players.

    Now if they say something like "hey, I noticed your using this move before or after this other move, of you switched it you'd do more damage." then no, I won't report something genuinely helpful sounding like that.
    Do you even read what you write? No, better yet, do you even comprehend what you write?

    You're literally saying in that second line of yours that if it sounds like one, you'll report them and if they aren't using one anyways, too bad so sad.

    As if the GM who's going to investigate your report is gonna be like "Oh well, clearly this player was acting cautiously by reporting just on something that sounded (YOUR WORDS, MIND YOU) like the other one was using a parser."


    "Make it seem" is not good enough. Ugh!

    If you cannot understand or won't understand that filing false reports against players is against the ToS, especially without PROPER chat log evidence, then I truly hope you do get flagged permanently as a report abuser.

    I don't care who hurt you so bad with parser in the past; you don't knight templar your way into following the rules and expect SE to have your back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I don't care who hurt you so bad with parser in the past; you don't knight templar your way into following the rules and expect SE to have your back.
    /thread lol.
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  7. #77
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    Would be nice to just see my individual dps I could care less about anyone else but learning my mch rotation and all I have to base it off of on PS4 is SSS hitting a dummy is just not the best accuracy for determining dps numbers :/ but I see why SE won't do it lol spent 30mins in a V3s party where the BRD harassed the SAM because his dps wasn't high

    Ppl like that ruin for some of us who want to use it for ourselves only
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  8. #78
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    I think that I have seen more forums post crying about the issue of parser user making them feel bad then I actualy saw someone bashing on another player for low DPS due to using a parser.

    In my whole MMO playing life I think that I saw only 1 time where someone started to bash on another players for his low DPS on parse that wasn't due to the player clearly beeing watching stream while playing.


    Parser hater really exagerate the problem of parsing. I know for a fact someone reporting me for using a parser. But that stupid summoner was just sending his pet and would cast about 1 spell every single minute. The problem wasn't my parser usage but more the fact that he clearly wasn't playing the game and was angry that I caught him.
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    Last edited by Venur; 09-06-2017 at 12:52 PM.

  9. #79
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    So I was just in a few susanos and had a blast because even if some wasn't as high as the others we killed it around 6 min and 30 seconds to 7 min, which is faster, about 2-3 min faster than an average group in susano extreme. So this chat also have a innocent player asking if someone use a parser and look at the way they ask. Is this seriously something that only concerns me? Because he only asked to know how he perform because he can't due to ps4 and then someone on the ps4 actually replied saying their dps since someone else said it for them. There are plenty of players like this who wonders and this also makes me frustrated that
    SenorPatty Would report, even if the player who said the numbers are on ps4.


    Players like this win a thumb up from me, asking how their performence is really nice since some people want to improve. What made me sad is that he was afraid to ask if someone actually used a parser, just because some trigger happy report people exist these days. So yeah a parser in game would be great for ps4 players and for those who are afraid getting banned using act on pc.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 09-06-2017 at 01:36 PM.

  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    Everyone everywhere does not have a parser. I know I don't not does my girlfriend. Mater of fact, while I don't mind criticism, if anyone says anything that makes it sound like there's even a a tiny chance of them having a parser and/or using it on a run I'm on I report them. That crap doesn't need to be here and it's annoying enough knowing people still use them.
    I guess you don't use stat weights then huh. Don't want to know whats better for your Sam DH or Crit? Must not bother melding or anything? I mean, how would you know what stat is better?

    Decided to ignore which attacks are magical, which are physical, cuz some are hard to tell right, especially as a healer main, why bother knowing? I guess as a Sam off class too you don't bother to look up any guides or any videos or listen to anyone that has a detailed knowledge on mechanics, how much damage is going out to the party in raids, i mean, why as a sch would you need to know anything about effective mitigation!...can just guess that too right? Oh and FORGET looking up openers haha what would top dps know?

    Considering all of the above information has become readily available through the use of *gasp* the parser then it would be pretty hypocritical of you to improve yourself as a player by reading up on it.

    Or maybe, just maybe, you yourself have benefited from the knowledge other people have gained using that parser.

    You think Dervy and any guide makers came across their info by GUESSING?

    Please. Get your head out of your butt.
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    Last edited by Tigerlilley; 09-06-2017 at 03:06 PM.

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