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    Making the game alt/alt-job friendly

    Just as the title says, and just as many others have said before me. I'm making a new thread to hopefully draw more attention to the subject and consequentially see some changes!

    Making the game alt friendly: right now, unless you're masochistic or have way too much time on your hands, making an alt is just plain unrealistic due to MSQ restrictions on progression. There are many ways to fix this. Please do something!

    Making the game alt-job friendly: OK, so you don't want to change the MSQ thing for real alts. Fine. Then maybe implement something where each job counts as an alt! (i.e., allow each job a separate lockout on raid bosses/daily roulettes, etc). The only reason I went on Omega server was for the road to 60 buff, which took *some* of the pain of leveling other jobs away. Now they've taken away that buff. It's not even fun anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyylan View Post
    Making the game alt friendly: right now, unless you're masochistic or have way too much time on your hands, making an alt is just plain unrealistic due to MSQ restrictions on progression. There are many ways to fix this. Please do something!
    As it stands, the game is based around not having multiple characters to switch between, as is the case with, say, World of Warcraft. We can take up any job at any time, and getting minimally geared doesn't take too much effort with some Verity and Omega farming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyylan View Post
    Making the game alt-job friendly: OK, so you don't want to change the MSQ thing for real alts. Fine. Then maybe implement something where each job counts as an alt! (i.e., allow each job a separate lockout on raid bosses/daily roulettes, etc).
    Pffffttttno.
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    Rouvaldr Zazan
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    Whats even the point of making the game "alt-friendly" when one character can be every class and crafter. Alt on another server? Sure, valid point, before it was a hassle. Now with Mogshop's new Story Skip and Level boost cash items that even further removes the need to make the game "alt-friendly", even if its for another server.

    "But I don't want/"shouldn't need" to spend money to skip it even though that's what I basically want"
    Well then either bite the bullet and endure the game's structure or suck it up and buy the item.

    "But we can only buy one per account "
    Patch 4.1 "Please look foreword to it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croweyes View Post
    Whats even the point of making the game "alt-friendly" when one character can be every class and crafter.
    I don't do this myself but I do know many people who have more than one character on the same server that they play so they can bypass the tomestone limit. While we can play every job..only one job can really be upgraded fully because of weekly caps and lockouts, at a time anyway. If I wanted to do BIS SMN and BRD in the same amount of time, it would be impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I don't do this myself but I do know many people who have more than one character on the same server that they play so they can bypass the tomestone limit. While we can play every job..only one job can really be upgraded fully because of weekly caps and lockouts, at a time anyway. If I wanted to do BIS SMN and BRD in the same amount of time, it would be impossible.
    Is only usefull if you also do Savage raid with all the alts.
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    Ezariel Bayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Is only usefull if you also do Savage raid with all the alts.
    Who cares if it is "useful"? It is what people want to do to have fun! It is what they enjoy doing! And isn't fun and enjoyment what gaming is all about?
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    Fair enough. I take both of your points, but I still stand by what I said. I still think the game would be overall more enjoyable if there was ***some*** sort of system in place to help ease the burden of leveling jobs/gearing. I get why it is the way it is, I just want to propose a minor change. Hell, at least leave the Road to 60 buff that I had on my server, and I'd be fine with that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyylan View Post
    Fair enough. I take both of your points, but I still stand by what I said. I still think the game would be overall more enjoyable if there was ***some*** sort of system in place to help ease the burden of leveling jobs/gearing. I get why it is the way it is, I just want to propose a minor change. Hell, at least leave the Road to 60 buff that I had on my server, and I'd be fine with that!
    Do you raid V4S? If you don't then I don't understand the issue. You don't need higher tier gear for anything. Even then you'd probably trying to only specialise in a single job anyways.
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    Thea Sitori
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    It's so easy to level an alt, especially if you are a healer or tank. You never wait for anything. The only part where you might need some FC help for even just story-wise is going through Coil and Alexander.

    Even then if you don't want to do ARR MSQ you have the jump potion options. I still haven't bought one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Do you raid V4S? If you don't then I don't understand the issue. You don't need higher tier gear for anything. Even then you'd probably trying to only specialise in a single job anyways.
    Yep and exactly! That's the reason I have an alt, so I can raid with multiple groups without loot restrictions. Plus being able to be in a world or another data center is nice.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    MSQ restriction is the least of your concerns if you're into alts. I've done all ARR quests (i.e. MSQ and all side quests) 4 times and all HW quests 3 times over. If MSQ requirement is an obstacle for you, then what you really want is probably just parallel end-game progression, i.e. a way around raid lock-outs, and not really because you want to have alts.
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