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  1. #41
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    Singularity's Avatar
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    Ariane Aster
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    Because, if we say nothing, then we are tacitly agreeing to SE spending development resources making this type of "content". It's too late for the Yo-kai event itself - the resources are spent and they could bring it back indefinitely without any further effort, but those who complain do so more in hope of not seeing future content repeat this pattern.

    I believe I can say with reasonable certainty that RNG FATE grinding is widely hated among the game's community, so our only avenue if we ever hope to see policies change and this type of quest never return is to make sure SE hears about it.
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  2. #42
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    I definitely agree with two ideas that people have brought up in this thread: -

    1) To be able to exchange normal medals for legendary medals i.e. 10 medals = 1 legendary
    2) Include FATEs in HW and SB areas, not only can others level alt classes, I've seen new lower level players missing out on the lower level FATEs because us higher level players are zerging them :/ I tended to stick to the higher level areas in E.Shroud and Western La Noscea because of this. I would have loved to have done some more FATEs for this event in the Heavensward and Stormblood areas
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  3. #43
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    I have nothing against them returning an event, so that the newer players can participate in them. But they explicitly said that this one is one time only (which is the reason I grinded like heck to get everything) and that we can throw the remaining medals away..its just a bit annoying when the devs are changing their opinion about those things, which would mean that some people might have thrown their medals away which means that they have to grind them again. If there is even a small possibility of something coming back then they should just say that its not 100% sure if it does come back or not.

    Thankfully I am completely done with it so I dont have to go through that again..its one of the most horrible events that the game ever had imo...I wish everyone that will try it good luck.

    I am also just a bit annoyed that they will redo those things again if an important person wants it back and if they cant earn money from it..all the other normal ingame events are one time only and people will always have to buy the items from the cash shop if they did not do it..but here this one will come back.

    It just feels like they noticed that sub dropped after some time of the release and since our own events only last an hour, they needed something to keep people playing (and paying) till the new patch comes out..


    (In the thread about Yokai event a lot of people complained either because they hated it or because they said it would be one time only thus they threw their stuff away..so there is more than just simple complaining in this)
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    Last edited by Alleo; 09-05-2017 at 12:09 AM.

  4. #44
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    People are annoyed because Yoshi's friend can go "yo, I didn't have time to finish this bring it back k?" and they immediately do, whereas if anyone else missed an event it's "items in mogstation for your sweet cash, please look forward to it!"

    Although personally I don't actually care about yokai being rerun, I do think it's a bit... on the nose? Especially since they were so adamant that it would never be coming back. (And can we either rerun the DQ event or put the hat in mogshop please? I want that hat so bad)
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  5. #45
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Another "exclusive" event once again brought back. Constantly bringing back events or items that were suppose to be exclusive leaves a sour taste in some mouths. I understand new player feel like they are entitled to doing the event or having the items, sadly you aren't. You weren't subbed at the time and I don't really care to know why. But no matter of my opinion anything exclusive will be put back into the game one way or the other so enjoy them all you new players!

    Also FATE RNG things are complete crap, just saying.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Did you miss the "among the reasons" part of that statement, which implies there were multiple factors? It isn't misinformation since it did contribute to people dislike as FATEs remain a detest from of content.
    Nope. Reward distribution was the primary reason that Diadem 2.0 died off after a few weeks. Anyone who tries to blame FATEs is misidentifying problems.

    Please do not confuse dislike/hate of 2.2 Atma style RNG token drops from FATEs and FATE camping with hatred of FATEs.

    I'm pretty confidant that most of the dislike of the Yo-kai watch event is tied to the 2.2 Atma style Legendary Coin system and that it is limited to the sub-level 50 zones.
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  7. #47
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    I mean have you seen them?

    "Manjimutt - A man-faced poodle who enjoys scaring people frightened by a poodle with a man's face."
    "Shogunyan - This legendary warrior's armor smells faintly of tuna."
    "Whisper - A self proclaimed "Yo-Kai butler." With the way he talks, you would think him a know-it-all, but he is really a know-nothing."
    "Robonyan F-Type - It's an upgraded robot that think's it's a cat."
    "USApyon - A Yo-kai from across the sea. USApyon hopes to someday venture into space. He uses Vader mode when he is angry."
    "Jibanyan - He takes his anger out on passing vehicles."
    "Komajiro - He might as well tag along on your adventures as he searches for his older brother."

    They were literally designed to be annoying.

    Even Blizzaria makes things unnecessarily cold, which also annoys Kyubi who makes things unnecessarily hot.
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  8. #48
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    Didn't read the thread and I am sure someone mentioned, but most likely because most folks aren't fans of the FATE system, and that is what SE keeps using to make events...its boring, mind numbing etc. That is why the second Diadem didn't do well at all and was dead within a couple days...once everyone found out it uses the FATE system.

    There is so many other options they could go with...but don't. /shrug ._.
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  9. #49
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    Gaiz! Stop disliking wut i lik hurr durrrr
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
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    Once again, you are misunderstanding words. Primary also doesn't mean only. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand. I suppose I'll also ignore the massive reddit and forum threads where people were groaning about FATEs having absolute nothing to do with Diadem collapsing or the fact the immediate criticism was "you just grind fucking FATEs." In fact, I had both MrHappy and Xeno's twitch streams up when Diadem 2.0 launched and the chats were flooded with people hating on FATEs, including both them and their raid groups. I don't know if you happen to like FATEs or something but it's quite known to be a widely disliked mechanic.

    You're also flat wrong regarding Yokai. FATEs grinding was, indeed, what people despise about it alongside the horrid RNG. You can toss up any thread and those two will be the most common responses. Very few even mentioned it being restricted to ARR areas. I mean, look at the multiple Yokai threads right now. What is the most brought up dislike? FATEs.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 09-05-2017 at 05:20 AM.

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