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    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Lakshmi's Bosom
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 70
    Bard has Quick Nock, and Rain of Death if it ever procs during Mage's Ballad only. So yea, just Quick Nock. It's more mind numbing than Scatter.
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    If you hold the purple crystal instead, your AoE gets much better.
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    MauvaisOeil's Avatar
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    Jaghatai Dotharl
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    or tied with Mch as the worst.
    Mch is far to be boring in AOE, beyond amunition management to trigger overheat and burn everything during a short OH phase followed by FT snapshotting, and turret overdrive timing. It's by far one of my favourite AOE class, yet the screw is easy.

    RDM should or could have had to alternate between two long cast AOE used in conjunction with dual cast, that would lessen the boredom I agree. However when you are quoting other jobs you speak of their oGCD and about RDM, you just say "contre sixte is allways on CD anyway" :x.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Unfortunately, AoEs were neutered in what I suspect was intended to stop us from mass pulling everything. It's the only reason abilities like Unleash getting a 50% nerf make any sense. Of course, it didn't take because no one wants to spend longer in a dungeon but I doubt they'll change it now.
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    MauvaisOeil's Avatar
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    Jaghatai Dotharl
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Unfortunately, AoEs were neutered in what I suspect was intended to stop us from mass pulling everything. It's the only reason abilities like Unleash getting a 50% nerf make any sense. Of course, it didn't take because no one wants to spend longer in a dungeon but I doubt they'll change it now.
    Which abilities "like" Unleash got a 50% nerf ?

    Some Aoe abilities got rescaled due to different buffs/potency/new abilities improving AOE DPS, like BLM flare got nerfed because they can use it more times due to umbral hearts, and they have got AOE thunder.

    But for DRK, Abysmal drain got unchanged, meaning the DRK still has the same potency per GCD when in AOE (where his MP regen has ben cut is another debate).

    Unleash only matter for low level content, where AOEing is often a bad idea (pre 50) due to lacks of gear and regen issues, causing AOE pulls to be too long for a true gain. Let's say unleash nerf is a problem for the 50-56 range, even if earlier it was a DPS gain while beeing weaved with 3 or more ennemies.
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    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    You should try Bards aoe "rotation" and get back to us. THAT is boring AF. All I do is dot a few enemies, go into Mages ballad, then spam quick nock and rain of death if it procs. After those 30 seconds are up its non stop quick nock spamming
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Character
    Qt Melon
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    You should try Bards aoe "rotation" and get back to us. THAT is boring AF. All I do is dot a few enemies, go into Mages ballad, then spam quick nock and rain of death if it procs. After those 30 seconds are up its non stop quick nock spamming
    It is boring, but our numbers tho! XD
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Most red mages I see only use scatter and never use enchanted moulinet, instead they opt to do their melee combo on a single target. -_-
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    Ariomi's Avatar
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    Character
    Ariyala Amaterasu
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Most red mages I see only use scatter and never use enchanted moulinet, instead they opt to do their melee combo on a single target. -_-
    Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.
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    Prism Daybreak
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariomi View Post
    Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.
    The recast is ~3 seconds less, doing several of them in a row is far more damage than Scatter in the same period.
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