Question on DF expectations

[tinythinker]

That would work if you view new player bonus or returning player as a bad thing. The only time a bonus may matter is in a raid or ex trial which even then maybe it doesnt I dont assume that new players or returners are just bad. A good way to see if someone is bad is to look at their player bar, if the tank isnt using cool downs and ur healing u can see every time they use a df cool down. If a healer isnt using any buffs like largesse, regens, sheilds, rousing the fairy, thin air etc. The other day It was a returning player dragoon I dont think they used botd once I still didnt say anything because I dont like conflict.

But sometimes I will throw out tips tho, I was running msq the other day and the ot turned off grit and darkside Im guessing not knowing you can have darkside up without grit they arent one skill. But yea you can see effort by just seeing whether or not people are using their skills, just by lookin at their player bar thats the best indicator. To me its not really any excuse for not reading ur tool tips I dont expect 4k dps in a leveling dungeon or anything, but I will get frustrated if someone hasnt taken the time to read their tool tips.

And Id say the biggest grip would be dps that dont aoe, more so than any healer, new or returning if ur in a dungeon u aoe on trash mobs if its more than three adds I dont see how this can be excuse that includes tanks. Everyone has off runs are some people may have fatigue from runnin to much in a day, but in dungeons u aoe, use buffs on healer and tank, if you not tryin to do any of those then yea you are being lazy like someone else says.

But new are returning doesnt mean bad at all, most of the time Im lookin for bonuses for extra poetics for relics these days so I dont look at it as a bad thing at all. So its really no need to say hey do u want this are that the best thing to do is just play it by ear, and not get pissed cause some healer or dps couldnt handle my super pull.

As someone who had some long breaks from the game, I don't think being new or being someone who doesn't get the chance to play as much as others is bad. I think, though, many people will judge you if there is no bonus announced and you have 2-5 jobs at max level and you are struggling or not up to a certain standard in some of the fights. The typical thought I have encountered being directed at players (not yet at me though, I guess I do well enough or have been lucky in who I get for groups) is that if you have multiple jobs at max level you must able to play very, very well in all but the newest content. If you don't, then it must mean you are selfish or lazy. Not everyone thinks this way, but many do and are really vocal about it.

Also, even when grouped players who are not judgemental (such as yourself), announcing you are coming back or are rusty is being considerate, as others will then know you might need help/advice. If I have been away and just do a run without letting the group know I'm really out of practice, for example, people will see I have WHM, SCH, and AST at 70 and some will assume that I am slacking when I make mistakes in healing or don't pull enough DPS. Or that I used jump potions/PotD and am a plague on the game. I am not telling other people who are returners or rusty they *must* do this because I personally say so, I just find that it helps me and the other people in my groups if I've been away a while. Some people are embarrassed or too proud to admit they might need some help or patience from others so I'm sharing my experience with that. If others don't feel the need or don't want to say they are getting back into the game, that's their choice and I'm not judging them for it.