Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
your earlier post does imply you're adaptable to whatever comes your way as long as people are trying, yes, and credit is due there. I'd say the expected normal for DF would be "expect people who are seeing this for the first time and will have varying levels of interest and/or difficulty with the new content. " this may include people who are trying to "Enjoy the dungeon". And indeed, if you have problems either way, PF is the way to go. But I can forgive sprouts more for not knowing this than people who would rather do "optimal" runs. That kind of implies you should know more about how the game flows and what things you can do to limit your experience to what you want.
To be fair, sprouts are a different basket. I have far more patient with them or someone who announces they're new. There is a difference though between adapting and expecting DF is only for certain types of players. The latter is what I get more annoyed. Granted, I think we're more or less on the same thought. So I'll leave it there.