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    Syrus_Draco's Avatar
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    Syrus Hyena
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Sometimes you need to own up to the fact you need criticism in your play. If nobody can tell you that you need to improve in some manner or other, then how would you ever know to try to do something different?
    There is a plain and clear difference between constructive and helpful criticism, to help your fellow person get better in PVP, and flat out being toxic and yelling at people to stop playing PVP and calling them garbage and so forth.

    Calling toxic banter a form of criticism is extremely poor. You can tell someone they made a mistake and call them shit, but that does nothing but demoralize the player. You can tell them they made a mistake, they should try out A or B, or try to follow certain rules of thumb. The point it to give guidance to a player to correct their mistakes, not to beat them while they're down.
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus_Draco View Post
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    Hey man you know you should probably try doing X thing/ you know sometimes DPS have to pick up medals/You should probably do XYZ for your burst combo...

    Is usually met with...

    GO F OFF AND DIE/ YOU DONT PAY MY SUB/ I PLAY HOW I WANT/ F YOU YOU B/

    Sometimes people really don't like any form of criticism .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Hey man you know you should probably try doing X thing/ you know sometimes DPS have to pick up medals/You should probably do XYZ for your burst combo...

    Is usually met with...

    GO F OFF AND DIE/ YOU DONT PAY MY SUB/ I PLAY HOW I WANT/ F YOU YOU B/

    Sometimes people really don't like any form of criticism .
    If they want to be garbage and not improve their game, then let them fall. You did your part in being helpful, and sadly not every one is as open minded to helpful criticism.
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus_Draco View Post
    There is a plain and clear difference between constructive and helpful criticism, to help your fellow person get better in PVP, and flat out being toxic and yelling at people to stop playing PVP and calling them garbage and so forth.

    Calling toxic banter a form of criticism is extremely poor. You can tell someone they made a mistake and call them shit, but that does nothing but demoralize the player. You can tell them they made a mistake, they should try out A or B, or try to follow certain rules of thumb. The point it to give guidance to a player to correct their mistakes, not to beat them while they're down.
    I can't do either, right now. The best I can do is wave my arms, place a mark over a player, and use a quick chat feature.
    I would absolutely love to genuinely help other players learn to improve. I'm in a great pvp linkshell and there's a ton of help there. But I can't do anything for strangers!
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I can't do either, right now. The best I can do is wave my arms, place a mark over a player, and use a quick chat feature.
    I would absolutely love to genuinely help other players learn to improve. I'm in a great pvp linkshell and there's a ton of help there. But I can't do anything for strangers!
    I can't wait for cross-server linkshells. I want genuine PVP help and tips, not "go die in a fire"-type feedback.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I can't wait for cross-server linkshells. I want genuine PVP help and tips, not "go die in a fire"-type feedback.
    My shell leader is the best most helpful person on terms of pvp I've ever had. Cross-world shells can't come fast enough!
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    http://king.canadane.com