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  1. #21
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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Note to self, avoid pvp or feel as if i want to beat a team member with my astrometer for spamming something..
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  2. #22
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    Krolja's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Krolja Ajor
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    Behemoth
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Just play literally anything but healer and feel like you can't influence the match at all...because you can't.
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  3. #23
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    KfLeX's Avatar
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    Lola Milila
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    Are you all prepared for angry cross-world tells in 4.1? SE will so regret about this feature after their GMs will have to respond to 10x more harassment reports.
    Man I was thinking that after reading that info, can't wait haha
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  4. #24
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I think many of us see the potential for misuse (just like we foresaw Quick Chat being misused), but it only stands to reason that because we see it, we try to keep ourselves above it. If you have to say anything, try to be constructive, don't instead lend validation to the misinterpretation that PvP is so toxic and full of harassment. And if you receive a nasty tell, don't reply, just ignore or report.
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  5. #25
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Krolja View Post
    Just play literally anything but healer and feel like you can't influence the match at all...because you can't.
    This is untrue. As a DPS you have a lot of sway over the match, just not as much as the healer or the tank.

    If DPS had no sway at all the few of us who climbed wouldn't have been able to.
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  6. #26
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    Syrus_Draco's Avatar
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    Syrus Hyena
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Sometimes you need to own up to the fact you need criticism in your play. If nobody can tell you that you need to improve in some manner or other, then how would you ever know to try to do something different?
    There is a plain and clear difference between constructive and helpful criticism, to help your fellow person get better in PVP, and flat out being toxic and yelling at people to stop playing PVP and calling them garbage and so forth.

    Calling toxic banter a form of criticism is extremely poor. You can tell someone they made a mistake and call them shit, but that does nothing but demoralize the player. You can tell them they made a mistake, they should try out A or B, or try to follow certain rules of thumb. The point it to give guidance to a player to correct their mistakes, not to beat them while they're down.
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  7. #27
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
    World
    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus_Draco View Post
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    Hey man you know you should probably try doing X thing/ you know sometimes DPS have to pick up medals/You should probably do XYZ for your burst combo...

    Is usually met with...

    GO F OFF AND DIE/ YOU DONT PAY MY SUB/ I PLAY HOW I WANT/ F YOU YOU B/

    Sometimes people really don't like any form of criticism .
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  8. #28
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Krolja View Post
    This doesn't tell you everything you need to know?

    Nice Job!
    It's enough to know if you've done something wrong.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  9. #29
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus_Draco View Post
    There is a plain and clear difference between constructive and helpful criticism, to help your fellow person get better in PVP, and flat out being toxic and yelling at people to stop playing PVP and calling them garbage and so forth.

    Calling toxic banter a form of criticism is extremely poor. You can tell someone they made a mistake and call them shit, but that does nothing but demoralize the player. You can tell them they made a mistake, they should try out A or B, or try to follow certain rules of thumb. The point it to give guidance to a player to correct their mistakes, not to beat them while they're down.
    I can't do either, right now. The best I can do is wave my arms, place a mark over a player, and use a quick chat feature.
    I would absolutely love to genuinely help other players learn to improve. I'm in a great pvp linkshell and there's a ton of help there. But I can't do anything for strangers!
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    http://king.canadane.com

  10. #30
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    Syrus_Draco's Avatar
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    Syrus Hyena
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Hey man you know you should probably try doing X thing/ you know sometimes DPS have to pick up medals/You should probably do XYZ for your burst combo...

    Is usually met with...

    GO F OFF AND DIE/ YOU DONT PAY MY SUB/ I PLAY HOW I WANT/ F YOU YOU B/

    Sometimes people really don't like any form of criticism .
    If they want to be garbage and not improve their game, then let them fall. You did your part in being helpful, and sadly not every one is as open minded to helpful criticism.
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