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    Player
    Nalfein's Avatar
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    Warit Jutamachat
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Gating super savage sounds fair enough to me, they probably want people to be ready for this.
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    So what you are saying is that content is to be cleared only and not enjoyed?
    After dozens of failed Susano Ex runs, I guarantee, 175%, no matter how much I adore a fight, it's not fun unless you clear. Ultimately, that's the purpose of this game. If you want to enjoy a stroll through the Aurum Vale, go for it, but you'd still have to kill things, and there's still a timer ticking. I didn't make up the goal of clearing things, the game did. Oh and I hope you went in there alone because unless you're a premade, the other 3 unfortunate souls who queued along with you might have a thing or two to say on the matter.
    Also, who's going to enjoy what you're suggesting? The non-raiders who will have the entire party on their case for under-performing and failing mechanics? Or the seven other people whose time is wasted because a single person can wipe the rest of the party in this tier of difficulty? Mind, I don't condone the toxic behavior I've seen from the raiding community in this game. But burying your head in the sand and pretending that's not exactly what's waiting for these hypothetical people whose banner you're curiously championing is asking for a world of disappointment and hurt. And on the flip side, those serious raiders who are here to get content done deserve better than someone who just wants to 'enjoy the content' rather than clear it.

    If you can't clear HM, you have no business in extreme. Sounds exactly like what you are saying.
    That is literally exactly what I was saying. In roughly the same words, too, lmao, wot?

    By that logic, we should ban at least 50 percent in this playerbase of not more to never be able to clear Omega savage. Because they obviously will never be able to do it.
    That's a strawman argument at best, a complete derailment that makes no sense at worst. No one is "banning" anyone from any content. They are more than welcome to try it out - once they clear the requisitions the game has set for them. Push comes to shove, they'll be able to have a go at it when the next expansion hits and we can unsync it, just like how Yoshi-P himself encouraged more casual players to try the HW end-game content now that it can be unsynced. They just won't get world-first.
    You're the one saying they'll never be able to set foot in there if they don't get it right this instant this very moment right now, not me.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 09-03-2017 at 06:18 AM.

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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
    World
    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    If you can't clear O4S, I can't for the life of me figure out why it matters whether or not you can get into Ultimate. I'm still waiting for a good reason as to why this needs to change.

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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Princess Sakura
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    If you can't clear O4S, I can't for the life of me figure out why it matters whether or not you can get into Ultimate. I'm still waiting for a good reason as to why this needs to change.

    I think they just want to see the fight, you know for the experience, they did imply they didn't care about beating it.
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    vp_cmc's Avatar
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    Tee Hee
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    I think they just want to see the fight, you know for the experience, they did imply they didn't care about beating it.
    Youtube? Because otherwise they will see, what, first 10 seconds of fight?
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Keridwyn Maeve
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Wait so they locked the absolute hardest content in the game behind the almost hardest content in the game?

    That seems...normal. I mean it's not as if you're going to need the gear and skills gained in one to beat the other.

    Oh wait...
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    Player Aquaslash's Avatar
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    Zinnia Higana
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I apologize on behalf of the Odin server for unleashing this nuisance into the world. Gotta work on our troll sealing mechanisms.
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    Yitan's Avatar
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    Geraru Raru
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    I apologize on behalf of the Odin server for unleashing this nuisance into the world. Gotta work on our troll sealing mechanisms.
    I wasn't going to post but man I gotta quote you because it's exactly what I thought when I saw his World.
    Also I apologize on behalf of all Lalafells.
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    Obsidian King
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    Typhon
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    I apologize on behalf of the Odin server for unleashing this nuisance into the world. Gotta work on our troll sealing mechanisms.
    It's fun to see a special starflake ranting about pointless things though.
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    Sandpark's Avatar
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    Kronus Magnus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Nah it's a perfect move.

    You can't make super challenging raid content for raider lifers and let anyone come in day one with no experience. Wait a few months to a year and the path there will be easier.

    /goes back to endless progression open world mmo hopping.
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