SE what is up with these bogus raid loot rules?

[bswpayton]

Because the content is intended for statics.

Join a static if you want to raid.

Where In an official statement does se say that? I'll wait

[Mycow8me]

One of the mods said you can que in raidfinder for "duty completion", it will only allow people who have not received the weekly reward to que. Does skipping a floor and getting logged as reward received bypass this or something? If so that might be a bug. I've never skipped a floor so I don't know the details.

[Snow_Princess]

Well RF, now known as High-end Duty DF, does have these warnings. It tells you what each option does and what happens if something is askew.
Everything bswpayton was complaining about is explained in the DF little help area.

Yes there is some stuff explained there but it makes no sense. It is hard to understand something with no logical backing.

1. It does not explain what duty complete means, why am I selecting this?
2. It does not explain what duty incomplete means, why am I slecting this?
What does ^ have to do with loot?
Why am I selecting first phase and final phase?

Basically it has unnecessary complexity and people pick some 320 penta melding over 340's anyway, they make it sound they need state rules for the Olympics or something, completely unnecessary for a game like this.

One of the mods said you can que in raidfinder for "duty completion", it will only allow people who have not received the weekly reward to que. Does skipping a floor and getting logged as reward received bypass this or something? If so that might be a bug. I've never skipped a floor so I don't know the details.

Remember people on the forums are minority.

[Astral145]

Raiding in FFXIV is not fun with all the gates they have in place. I dont bother with it anymore for the reasons above and more. There is absolutely no reason at all for there to be so many gates in this game. We pay a sub for a reason so we dont have to deal with the bs that comes with F2P mmo's.... And no having gates does not keep people playing the game for the long haul. If anything having these kinds of gates makes players look elsewhere for raid style content.

Would I like to run savage raids?... You bet!! But not with the restrictions that are in place atm...

[Nezerius]

Yes there is some stuff explained there but it makes no sense. It is hard to understand something with no logical backing.

1. It does not explain what duty complete means, why am I selecting this?
2. It does not explain what duty incomplete means, why am I slecting this?
What does ^ have to do with loot?

It doesn't? Not everything in the DF info panel is related to loot. And the first point is clearly explained in the info panel: "*The "Duty Complete" option is only available for previously completed duties." IE: You need to have cleared a duty before you can select that option. Selecting this option will make it so the DF will only throw you into a group with people that no longer have their first time bonus. Point 2 is the exact opposite, and shouldn't really need to be explained, since the explanation for point 1 indirectly does that.

Or another simple way, if you can't select the Duty Complete matching requirement, you obviously don't meet the requirement.

Why am I selecting first phase and final phase?

To indicate which part a player wants to practice, with the DF picking players that have picked the same option.

Basically it has unnecessary complexity and people pick 320 penta melding over 340's anyway, they make it sound they need state rules for the Olympics or something, completely unnecessary for a game like this.

I don't see how complex, it's pretty easy to understand by just reading the info panel. And only tanks will pick i320 accessories over i340 ones.

[rjspencer4]

Because the content is intended for statics.

Join a static if you want to raid.

and that's why I don't even attempt this content.

[bswpayton]

and that's why I don't even attempt this content.

What he said is not a true statement

[Altena]

The lockout system plastered over the entire game is stupid.
Always has been stupid, always will be stupid. However they are not going to improve it greatly aside from a few tweaks. Just something we have to live with.
It isn't just the raid loot system that has this issue - the weekly tomes is another.

Reason they won't change it is it gates people's progression and keeps them subbed for longer while they release more content.

The issue with doing a higher tier locking you from loot on the lower regardless of weekly completion I believe is simply carried over from pre-raid finder, where the moment you entered the duty you were synced to that fight.

[Aomine1992]

and that's why I don't even attempt this content.

It's very far from the truth majority of this game is pugable Including savage...Statics haven't been needed since Gordias A3s besides that
*¯\_(ツ)_/¯*

[LunaFaye]

Because the content is intended for statics.

Join a static if you want to raid.

Back in the day I agree that raiding was literally just meant to be ran by statics, also the reason we didn't have it available via DF for a long time, but that changed with HW.

And while I agree that it is easier with statics, because you have people that are like minded, there's nothing wrong with pugging, if and here's the problem, the person that joins the group would put some effort into research.

As OP has proven in many topics prior, always late to the game, always annoyed by the "current" system that doesn't give out freebies. Even tho in most cases it has been already adjusted, like running Coil in HW and thinking that this is hard content and need nerfs/adjustments, so that they can clear it for WT etc.

Clearly there's more to it then just jumping into a PF party and hope that the next person carries you through the content. Sadly, that isn't new tho, and as we have seen, OP couldn't even be bothered to read up on raiding or the requirements/rules that goes with it, ruining it for the other parties that pug'd for 2 chests that week. But hey, at the end it's always the system that's bad, right?