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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsubaki75 View Post
    You have don't have all of the toolkit in pvp so your options are limited there. In pve however you may need to make changes or switch to a different rotation depending on the situation.
    Fire IV requires AF, Blizzard IV requires UI. You will never have to choose one or the other.

    Warrior got a revamp with 4.0, with Inner Beast changing to Fell Cleave automatically when you enter dps stance, and back when you enter tank stance (the other stance dependent skills do the same).
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    Akatsubaki Dovakin
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    combat macros do not queue skills the only ones you should use are for "targeted" skills like freeze or aetherial manapulation

    here is my hud atm bear in mind i'm still working to 70 on this job
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    Itov Meyachev
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsubaki75 View Post
    combat macros do not queue skills
    I'm not trying to queue skills, only fire iv or blizzard iv is available at a time, depending if it's on AF or UI. I would just want to disable enochian if active.
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    I get that, my point was that you will absolutely need 2 hotbars even if this is done, and your full rotations for both single target and for aoe fit on 1 hotbar with the situational skills on the second
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    Itov Meyachev
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    atm I am using only 1 hotbar and I think I could keep it that way even when reaching lvl 70. Knowing my own playstyle, I managed to make useful macros that allows me to minimalize the UI.

    Edit : 1 hotbar for regular fights, but I got another hotbar for ally buffs, such as apocastasis.

    Edit 2 : And wether or not I need 2 hotbars, the point stays the same. It is possible to enhance the UI to make it more minimalistic and simple by combining the 3 spells to only 1 slot.
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    Last edited by Itov; 09-02-2017 at 02:07 AM.

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    Dante Haiwindo
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    it's ineffective to do so. I run WHM on a Controller on PC, i use 2 "bars" ie: Cross and expanded. Macros create lag in your skills, which makes it so that you have less output.

    I'm not saying this to be mean: but you're hindering yourself and if you DF randomly, you're very likely to be kicked just because of this. As it has been said "Playstyle" is a valid reason for kicking.

    People are trying to show you that it is possible to actually be functional without a lot of bars showing, but you should never scrimp on your combat abilities/spells/skills/etc.
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    A controller can access 48 buttons without having to ever do a "hard" crossbar switch. Using macros introduces too much room for screwups with skills not firing as desired.
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    Itov's completely correct. Enochian, F4, and B4 should be on the same button just like in pvp. Or, at least, that should be an option somewhere.

    I recently redid my controls and while I can certainly fit all my stuff into 1234QERFZXCV+Alt/Ctrl as is, there are a few button combos more annoying to reach than others and I'd certainly appreciate the added space.
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    I've found that macroing them in priority has helped cut down on hotbar consumption. I do it like this
    /ac fire 4 /ac blizzard 4
    /ac fire 3 /ac blizzard 3

    that a way when enochain is up you cast your perspective spell 4 and when you switch or start up you cast your spell 3. I did a similar thing with rdm as well. made my life so much easier. though be careful sometimes (all be it rarely) lag can cause you to cast a spell 3 when you want to cast spell 4. though the pro's out weigh the cons in my opinion and this almost never happens.
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    Lala Yuki
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    Never ever EVER macro skills unless it's something like DRK salted earth because it always has a half second lag so you essentially lose 1 attack every 10 seconds. If you really need space, just put your AOE rotation(fire 2, Thunder 4, flare) on a back hotbar since you never actually need Aoe when you need single target. And remove blizzard 1 entirely bc you'll literally never need it.

    Also I find it kinda funny you complain about lack of space for BLM, when BLM has one of the lowest skill counts of any class.
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