SE, can you fix RDM's aggro?

[Jijifli]

role list in order of importance:
Swiftcast
Lucid Dreaming
Mana Shift
Diversion
Apocastatis or Erase, neither are that great for dungeons but at least do something

Forgive me for this honest confusion, but for RDM, why swiftcast?

Literally every other spell is a swift cast and if you swiftcast, you don't get dualcast. The only thing I can think of is to get Verraise out slightly faster, and I still don't see why for that.

And I guess before the, "Nothing else to put there" situation, Addle is useful if the boss has any magic damage.

[Alistaire]

Forgive me for this honest confusion, but for RDM, why swiftcast?

Literally every other spell is a swift cast and if you swiftcast, you don't get dualcast. The only thing I can think of is to get Verraise out slightly faster, and I still don't see why for that.

And I guess before the, "Nothing else to put there" situation, Addle is useful if the boss has any magic damage.

Let's say you start off with say jolt > thunder. Then you swift > aero, then continue your rotation. Use it on cooldown.

[Jijifli]

Let's say you start off with say jolt > thunder. Then you swift > aero, then continue your rotation. Use it on cooldown.

Assuming I'm in content where the damage matters, I'd have a pre-casted verthunder already, with a fire ready for it when I need to go back to it. If Veraero right after gave stone, it'd feel kind of a waste there. And strangely enough any RDM's I see ever run it only use it on vercure or verraise.

I guess maybe after that it can be useful. The flow just feels really off with that though. Then again pugs hate Verraise apparently so what I do I got?

Edit: Looked it up a bit. Guess it is a boost. Jeez I can't wait to get yelled at for pulling off of tanks and the Verraising in place of healers.

[Snow_Princess]

Assuming I'm in content where the damage matters, I'd have a pre-casted verthunder already, with a fire ready for it when I need to go back to it. If Veraero right after gave stone, it'd feel kind of a waste there. And strangely enough any RDM's I see ever run it only use it on vercure or verraise.

I guess maybe after that it can be useful. The flow just feels really off with that though. Then again pugs hate Verraise apparently so what I do I got?

Edit: Looked it up a bit. Guess it is a boost. Jeez I can't wait to get yelled at for pulling off of tanks and the Verraising in place of healers.

There is a reason he said it the way he did, you do not pull with it, you time a hardcast thunder/aero to trigger duo and cast the opposing one even if you get a proc, you keep rotatating like this till RNG dies out then you swiftcast one of them. The idea is to have swiftcast there to skip a jolt.

[Jijifli]

There is a reason he said it the way he did, you do not pull with it, you time a hardcast thunder/aero to trigger duo and cast the opposing one even if you get a proc, you keep rotatating like this till RNG dies out then you swiftcast one of them. The idea is to have swiftcast there to skip a jolt.

Their example was of Jolt then Verthunder. All I said was I can pre-cast verthunder and even agreed later on it can be useful now that I look at it... But thanks for repeated what I already agreed to.

[Alistaire]

Their example was of Jolt then Verthunder. All I said was I can pre-cast verthunder and even agreed later on it can be useful now that I look at it... But thanks for repeated what I already agreed to.

omg...ok if this is needed to explain better here goes:

proper pull:
5-second pre-pull Verthunder
on pull dualcast Veraero
hardcast jolt
dualcast verthunder
swiftcast veraero
continue normal rotation

Swiftcast on rdm is a standard part of your rotation.

[Snow_Princess]

omg...ok if this is needed to explain better here goes:

proper pull:
5-second pre-pull Verthunder
on pull dualcast Veraero
hardcast jolt
dualcast verthunder
swiftcast veraero
continue normal rotation

Swiftcast on rdm is a standard part of your rotation.

That doesn't work if you get lucky. Also where is the acceleration? at some points you have to put swiftcast on hold if your using that + getting lucky right?