Appreciation for the competition

[Remedi]

This comes with time. WoW launched in 2004. That was 13 years ago. And it didn't start with all those things. FFXIV in its current iteration is only just 4 years old. And already there have been tweaks and improvements the way that WoW and all other MMOs improve themselves. This is still a young game and the developers are still learning.

If I'm not wrong 2.0 was also built with not really the top end tech behind and in 2 years I think? so yes things will come over time and the game is quite young

[Naunet]

This comes with time. WoW launched in 2004. That was 13 years ago. And it didn't start with all those things. FFXIV in its current iteration is only just 4 years old. And already there have been tweaks and improvements the way that WoW and all other MMOs improve themselves. This is still a young game and the developers are still learning.

They didn't start with those things because MMOs were still in their infancy. Nowadays there's little excuse.

[Nezerius]

This comes with time. WoW launched in 2004. That was 13 years ago. And it didn't start with all those things. FFXIV in its current iteration is only just 4 years old. And already there have been tweaks and improvements the way that WoW and all other MMOs improve themselves. This is still a young game and the developers are still learning.

This is a really weak excuse, as SE has had experience with MMOs since before the release of WoW, namely with the release of FFXI in 2002, as well as the release of 1.0 in 2010. While these two things are obviously not the same as the current version of XIV, one thing that should carry over from MMO to MMO, from the same company, is proper netcode. Something WoW does right, but XIV still seems to struggle with.

[Remedi]

TBF in the documentary they did say that one of the reason 1.0 failed was because ppl were not in touch with what mmos in the market were and they said that they had to play and know wow to get how to build a functioning mmo

[JunseiKei]

But, getting to my point. Let us offer a heart felt thank you to Blizzard. Thank you for being obnoxious arrogant jerks.

Let us not forget Nostalrius and Blizzard's comment to legacy servers.

TBF in the documentary they did say that one of the reason 1.0 failed was because ppl were not in touch with what mmos in the market were and they said that they had to play and know wow to get how to build a functioning mmo

One point O
I will shamelessly bump this guy's work. He did a really great job.

[Remedi]

Idd it was

[Stormfur]

I don't think FFXIV is so much a tribute to WoW but you've got to remember, WoW is ancient in terms of MMO development. So a lot of the things they did first that worked, FFXIV took a page from their playbook and ran with it. It happens in all MMOs to this day. So maybe a tribute in that way. I still don't think that's the right word...

The FFXIV team has done a lot of things right, and some things wrong, and they've definitely course-corrected. It's refreshing to see them actually take player feedback into account on top of all the things we don't know that happen behind the scenes.

I just wish YoshiP & Co. would take off the blinders when it comes to PVP. It's really struggling now and I don't think they see that. Sure, the playerbase that does PVP AND is registered on the forums is probably a fraction of a percent, but they've put out some ideas (and so have I) that would really improve the game by leaps and bounds and it feels like no one wants to listen

[Voltyblast]

To be fair, in my experience with all Blizzard (so not just WoW, but also OW and HoTS and HS and SC and anything they make really) I've seen so many people who will nitpick anything that isn't like vanilla (there are legitimate cases of feedback ignore but that's another topic) so saying stuff like "uninstall the game" is often enough a way to tell them "we're tired of the same complaints, stop playing and move on".

I'm not defending Blizzard and their ways: they can be quite scummy and i know a lot of friends who got turned off by them (I was lucky to never had issues though), but I'd say they're not the biggest evil.
Unlike, say, Konami.

But thankfully this doesn't happen in FFXIV! I mean, nobody ever bashes any criticism about the game and is told to "stop play the game if you don't like" or "unsub cause this game isn't for you", or when they constantly have to remind us that FF11 was superior and they should take more from that game instead.

That would be sillly!

[C-croft]

But thankfully this doesn't happen in FFXIV! I mean, nobody ever bashes any criticism about the game and is told to "stop play the game if you don't like" or "unsub cause this game isn't for you", or when they constantly have to remind us that FF11 was superior and they should take more from that game instead.

That would be sillly!

I have yet to see an SE employee use personal or company resources tovexpress these opinions.

[SicariusSeven]

Everquest, Runescape, and Ultima Online may have been the granddaddy of MMOs but WoW is the current reigning King but only because of sheer numbers. They reached their peak with Wrath but have been unable to get those numbers again ever since. WoD pissed off their playerbase and Legion ran out of steam early on. While XIV did look at WoW at one point for inspiration and Yoshi has praised the game, at this point it's Apples and Bananas.

WoW will always be WoW. FF XIV will always be FF XIV. They have similarities and are both in the same fruit salad but in the end players will always have their own tastes. I used to play WoW but not anymore. Now FF XIV is my passion. Will that last? Who knows? I know myself and a few of my friends get MMO burn out now and then but we come back to what we love.