Outdated Raids

[Elleia]

I think the issue is that the 24 man in the book varies person to person, and queues take so long you're better off ignoring that entry. Maybe they could make it so the 24 man slot is the same for everyone and changes each week - then at least everyone will need the same 24 man raid and queues will be faster.

[SuperZay]

Because content needs to be developed, it doesn't just magically appear. Also 4.0 - 4.1 is a 3.5 month long period, just like any other patch, not 4-5months.

Adding another roulette and throwing 6 raids into it is not 'content'.
3.5 months from June 20th is October 5th, we'll see what date they'll announce tomorrow, but I think that's too early for first patch.

[Bahd_Monkey]

Because content needs to be developed, it doesn't just magically appear.

Roulette for pre-existing content doesn't take time to develop. It just takes a bit of code, most of which has already been written for the other roulettes.
When they add this, hopefully, it will award us Creation Tomes or whatever the most current currency is.

[MagnificentErgo]

Roulette for pre-existing content doesn't take time to develop. It just takes a bit of code, most of which has already been written for the other roulettes.
When they add this, hopefully, it will award us Creation Tomes or whatever the most current currency is.

Unless you've an inside understanding on FFXIV's programming architecture, its pretty assumptive to think its a minor coding session. That's also completely ignoring time for play testing and ensuring the content is not bugged by any number of variables.

So, yeah, it doesnt just happen.

[Rizon]

The entire purpose of having them in Wonderous Tails is to get people to queue. If they remove them the situation will become even worse.

Cannot get much worse then it is right now. You cannot get 24 people to do those raids. Just the other day I queued up for World of Darkness. After about an hour of waiting I fell asleep. When I woke up 6 hours later I was still queued up with little movement in numbers

[magnanimousCynic]

I remember hearing something about changing Labyrinth of the Ancients to use 3 tanks instead of 6 for the purpose of the roulette. Takes time to flesh out that change?

Yeah, I remember an interview of them planning to make adjustments to LotA so it can easily be done with 3 tanks, since the only part that really needs 6 tanks is the Atomos Section.

[DracotheDragon]

with the 8 man raids a easy way i can think to do it is a Roulette, remove the exp from mobs, and you can only get the bonus from completing but if you leave you lose the bonus, and if vote dismised 3 tmes, you lose that bonus, (trying to stop people from abusing this would be difficult) the bonus being a major EXP boost and gold for leveling. at level 70 it grants 30 tonestones of creation, once a day.

as a way to avoid people crying about the levels make it to where the roulet matches up the 8 people and unsync them, so they go in as the level they want,

this could help do old raid content.

[BillyKaplan]

the roulet matches up the 8 people and unsync them

Not going to happen. The whole point of roulettes is to help fill up queues for people who queue for the duties directly. If people want to run it unsync, they can and should put up a PF (possible for the pre-SB 8-player raids you talked about). Also, no matter the awards, some people will still feel bad if they go into this supposed roulette, get unsynced to 70, and have to carry a party of 7 level 50s.

[Nezerius]

Adding another roulette and throwing 6 raids into it is not 'content'.

Roulette for pre-existing content doesn't take time to develop. It just takes a bit of code, most of which has already been written for the other roulettes.

Both of you are using the player defined version of the word "content", the dungeons, raids, trials etc. that you run.
The person you're quoting is talking about the developer version of it, which is anything that requires development time. And yes, digging through tons of code (some of likely from 1.0 still) does take development time.

since the only part that really needs 6 tanks is the Atomos Section.

Even the Atomos section can be done with 3 tanks, since the Atomos itself doesn't need to be tanked, just the adds that it spawns.

[SuperZay]

Both of you are using the player defined version of the word "content", the dungeons, raids, trials etc. that you run.
The person you're quoting is talking about the developer version of it, which is anything that requires development time. And yes, digging through tons of code (some of likely from 1.0 still) does take development time.

You take a ready code from Trials Roulette and copy it. You replace all trials instance IDs with 6 raids instance IDs. Rename second copy to Raid Roulette. Attach that code as another entry in Duty Roulette menu.
Done.