I hate that BRD is so dependent on DRGs Buffs/Debuff

[Hakuohsama]

Hey ho fellow BRD players,

with the introduction of Samurai my Raidgroup DRG sometimes switches of to Samurai and ive noticed a massiv dps lose on my side.. In pug Groups you can instandly feel the difference with a decent Comb of classes.

When i do arround 4k Dps without a DRG alone Disembowel (5%) would give me arround 200 dps increase. And you cant forget the Crit buff which perfectly stacks with your opener and Dot resets.

If Square really wants that player should suport each other like they gave Monk utility they should do something about MCH/BRD with piercing resistance that you arent deppended on a DRG so much to do really good. Samurai is in my eyes pure ego DPS that takes everything from everyone but doesnt give anything back besides a slashing debuff and a bit more of DPS that everyone else will lose.

Greetz Haku
Sorry for Typos. lol

[Hakuohsama]

I can understand if player wanna do easy peasy Samurai and do 5k DPS but its dumb that other classes must suffer under this.

[Neela]

its dumb to say that someone else is the reason for your personal dps amount – grp buffs are boni on top but they shouldn't be seen as "debuff" if they fail or are missing completely. You simple can't rely on other classes just to justify your own dmg. I always wonder if people rely on others for their own output. F.e the TA discussion "the grp suffers if you fail". And btw Sam is not the first "ego dps"... Blm and Mnks in HW were similar and to be fair I also can't understand why its even a thing to talk about... I mean from an objective point of view you two add your dmg to your grp, so whats the difference in the end how the amount of dps is generated? If Sam/Brd (60/40) do the same dmg like Drg/Brd (50/50) I can't see a point aside of personal ego problems... : /

[Hakuohsama]

Wel if you want to compete and compare your dmg with other players its impossible if you raid without a drg. May it be my own ego yes but the conecpt of beeing on the lower End of the dps because of no DRG still sucks.

[Gwaeron89]

Wel if you want to compete and compare your dmg with other players its impossible if you raid without a drg. May it be my own ego yes but the conecpt of beeing on the lower End of the dps because of no DRG still sucks.

Ang blm dps is hugely related to magic vulnerability debuff from smn. But because nobody bothers with double caster setups, smn or even blm over rdm, they will always underperform by default, so what.

[Hakuohsama]

Well but no one is raiding with double Casters. But over 50% raid with DRG as a melee DPS.
Thats a huge difference.

[Gwaeron89]

Well but no one is raiding with double Casters. But over 50% raid with DRG as a melee DPS.
Thats a huge difference.

But then i think you have to ask to improve an overall class balance to make everything viable and interchangeable, not to make something that's already meta to be even more overpowered.

[Neela]

So actually you are upset about your own choice playing a support dd cls which makes less dmg than a raw dd class?... Brd is absolut fine in personal dps if you consider their tons of grp utility. : /

[Eyvhokan]

So actually you are upset about your own choice playing a support dd cls which makes less dmg than a raw dd class?... Brd is absolut fine in personal dps if you consider their tons of grp utility. : /

That's not the issue, it's the the fact it's a specific tethering of the classes.

[HyoMinPark]

So actually you are upset about your own choice playing a support dd cls which makes less dmg than a raw dd class?... Brd is absolut fine in personal dps if you consider their tons of grp utility. : /

I don't think that's what the OP is saying, though I could be wrong. As it stands, BRD/MCH are the only two physical DPS roles that do not apply their own damage debuff to increase their DPS-- SAM/NIN both have skills to apply slashing, MNK has Dragon Kick to apply blunt, DRG applies piercing. BRD/MCH have no such debuff, and if the developers are keen to keep the resistance debuffs in the game, then it would be nice to give BRD/MCH a way to apply the piercing debuff to mobs so that they can maximize their own damage.

While the reason behind playing a BRD is not "pure damage" and rather "party support," it does still kind of suck that BRD/MCH have to remain reliant on a DRG to apply a very basic damage debuff.