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  1. #21
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    Caimie_Tsukino's Avatar
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu View Post
    Okay I don't understand the changes made to MaMa and FS. Did they raise the MaMa stacks or you've used PbP somewhere?
    because I've never hit that much progress using MaMa with so many stacks left.

    As Rath explained it (can't remember original source), MaMa is used for picking up Tricks of the Trade procs for additional Precise Touches
    -after- MaMa stacks is gone. I think it was misused somewhere.
    You seem really confused... First, there has not been any changes made to MaMa and FS. I have used 3x PBP (as shown on the chat box in pic 3). In fact, after the PBPs, I have used CS III and Observe+FocS as well, but I have skipped that picture, as it wasn't a point I was trying to make there. I then burnt off all my CP with Master's Mend II x2 one after another, which made absolutely no sense in a real crafting scenario. The whole purpose of this was just to create the scenario which I have plenty of MaMa stacks left but fewer than 15 CP. I was not actually trying to HQ anything.

    In Rath's rotation, the main purpose of MaMa is not for picking up Tricks of Trades. It is to allow free Flawless Syn to be performed after 2x PBP, so that one can push progress to near completion before working on quality. But being able to pick up Tricks of Trades during MaMa is a bonus that should be done when it's available. In Rath's rotation, because one would have used Steady Hand and 2x PBP, so there's plenty of room for taking Trick of Trades for extra CP. In other rotations that use MaMa but not PBP, one would need to "create" room for CP gain by burning off CP with something, e.g. Inner Quiet. Comfort Zone should also be used during MaMa, and it should be activated to line up perfectly with the MaMa stacks. This way, when both CZ and MaMa falls off simultaneously, you can immediately re-apply CZ before starting to push quality.

    In any case, if you're a level 70 crafter in Storm Blood, you should not be using Rath's rotation anymore.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  2. 09-03-2017 05:23 AM
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    Caimie answered for me

  3. #22
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    Idramuk Great-wyrm
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 60
    If you were going for this via Piece by Piece you're spending a lot of CP to gain the 1200 necessary. Using steady hand or risking the 10% failure on piece by piece is up to you. However with out the CP it doesn't pass the true/false test which is common in programming.
    Does Player Meet 15 cp requirement to use? True, next T/F statement of Is makers mark active T/F
    Does Player Meet 15 CP requirement? False unable to use ability. It must past this test first if it doesnt your craft will no longer proceed. Simple Programmer Logic
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