Flawless Synthesis + Maker's Mark (bug or not)?

[ChameleonMS]

So here the scenario. My buddy is doing a 2* SB craft using Maker's Mark + Flawless Synthesis. He miss-manages his CP and ends up down at 12 CP. Flawless Synthesis requires 15 CP to activate and thus he could not press it.

But, under Maker's Mark

Reduces Flawless Synthesis CP cost and durability loss to 0. Effect duration determined by recipe difficulty.
Available only on the first step.

So, is it bug that he could not activate Flawless Synthesis in that situation?

[Tsubaki75]

The only reason he is running out of cp is because he is crafting backwards, if you are using makers mark you need to do the progress 1st and quality 2nd. Get the craft to 1 step before completion and then work quality

[Legion88]

It is no bug.

While it is right that it would not cost the CP but you still need at least the amount of CP to activate it and this criteria is not set to 0.

[StouterTaru]

2-star recipes have 3543 progress to finish. That means if you activate Maker's Mark on the first step, it will be active for 36 steps (3543/10, rounded up). That means on step 38 and above, Flawless will use CP and durability.

[ChameleonMS]

It is no bug.
While it is right that it would not cost the CP but you still need at least the amount of CP to activate it and this criteria is not set to 0.

So, the description is just poorly worded then.

Reduces Flawless Synthesis CP cost and durability loss to 0. Effect duration determined by recipe difficulty.

Should actually say something like:

The Cost and Durability for Flawless Synthesis will be refunded.

This brings me to another related question then, if you had only 10 durability available and pressed Flawless Synthesis under Maker's Mark, would your synthesis break? Just like the behaviour of Manipulation.

[Xehmnus]

Given the tooltip, I'd imagine the synthesis would be fine since it is negating the durability drop outright as opposed to a... regenerative effect like manipulation. I have not tested this myself however so I cannot say for sure.

[magnanimousCynic]

Using Flawless Synthesis under MaMa at 10 or 5 Durability does not break the craft.

Source: just tested it.

[ChameleonMS]

Fascinating, so on the one hand the DUR 0 is properly honoured according to the description but on the other hand the CP cost of 0 is not properly honoured.

[Duskwight]

how far into the craft did this occur? makers mark is only good for a certain amount of steps depending on the level of craft. To me, it sounds as though makers mark had already dropped off, especially if they're sitting at that low cp

[Vidu]

how far into the craft did this occur? makers mark is only good for a certain amount of steps depending on the level of craft. To me, it sounds as though makers mark had already dropped off, especially if they're sitting at that low cp

You cant activate Flawless Synthesis under MM if you dont have the CP for it though - I had the same thought myself yesterday, so I tested it by wasting all my CP on comfortzone.
Not sure if its a bug or intentional though - either way its something that shouldnt happen because you shouldnt be using CP-heavy-actions as long as MM is up.