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    Well. some things..

    First. I think people are knockiing VR before trying decent VR. Your phone doesnt count and is shit. Im sorry. Vive and PSVR are far superior.

    Second. When i tried VR it was obviously no longer a gimmick. It took my breath. I thought I knew what i was getting into, but most people cant even describe it. Its something you have to try to actually understand. It will catch on. It just wont be as huge as Ps4 or Xbox 1. It just needs price drops and some time. Do you know how many people want to play VR MMOs and VR porn? lol theres definitely a market. I'm simply waiting on games to be made.Most things are still testing the waters and hardly worth playing. We do have some really good ones, though few.

    and last, I support FFXIV VR but the hud will need to be changed a little. Camera will need to be allowed to rotate around more freely and then just add side by side stereoscopic rendering. This will be hard for those who play with kb and dont have good muscle memory, but for controller/gaming pad+gaming mice users itll be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
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    1. I've tried the Vive/Rift. Good for games that are designed for VR, like I said, Elite Dangerous and Assetto Corsa. I tried a demo of proper VR at a convention. I've also played the former game with the rubbish "phone VR" - and aside from the stupid VR drift because my phone is aluminium... it's breathtaking even on a phone.
    2. I agree, it's no longer a gimmick. It's a really immersive experience, for games designed with it in mind. I believe ETS2 supports VR as well, I will be dabbling into that at some point.
    3. FFXIV was designed for tab target massive hotbar 3rd person combat. I daresay this is clearly not a good one for VR. So much would have to be remade, since I don't think FFXIV would work well with VR. Now, if they made say a FF17 MMO with VR in mind, that'd be a blast and would probably be really good, but I don't think they can feasibly make FF14 good for VR without changing so much it risks alienating the current user base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
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    Ive had a different experience with phone Vr..It looks bad and is hard to align the lens properly. It gave me a massive headache after every use. Vive and PSVR do not. In fact, since maybe a week after obtaining it them, I no longer feel motion sickness from most games. (try spinning a spaceship in space stations with your boost on and no proper "up" or "down"../bleghhhh)

    An FF VRMMO.. Now theres an idea. Id love to see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Ive had a different experience with phone Vr..It looks bad and is hard to align the lens properly. It gave me a massive headache after every use. Vive and PSVR do not. In fact, since maybe a week after obtaining it them, I no longer feel motion sickness from most games. (try spinning a spaceship in space stations with your boost on and no proper "up" or "down"../bleghhhh)

    An FF VRMMO.. Now theres an idea. Id love to see that.
    With games like Rigs which in my opinion is still one of the best looking PSVR games graphically and Resident Evil 7 comes second and even Robinson The Journey which had amazing graphics. I can't see how phone VR would be that grat to be honest with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    With games like Rigs which in my opinion is still one of the best looking PSVR games graphically and Resident Evil 7 comes second and even Robinson The Journey which had amazing graphics. I can't see how phone VR would be that grat to be honest with you.
    Different people find different things great. I am able to be fully immersed in both phone and normal VR. Is phone VR inferior to normal VR? Certainly. That I will not argue, but that doesn't mean it can't be great for some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Different people find different things great. I am able to be fully immersed in both phone and normal VR. Is phone VR inferior to normal VR? Certainly. That I will not argue, but that doesn't mean it can't be great for some people.
    Problem with phone VR in my experience is duration. Phones get too hot too fast. At least the formerly explosive Samsung Galaxy phones lol

    One thing I did like about it compared to PSVR is the lack of cords, though. Wireless controller, wireless headphones, wireless headset. Tangled cords are annoying in VR
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Problem with phone VR in my experience is duration. Phones get too hot too fast. At least the formerly explosive Samsung Galaxy phones lol
    That is not something I will even try to deny. My HTC One M8s, even using Facebook, gets so hot I can cook a lalafell on it and cook it to a heat that the lalafell is safe to eat. If I tried to hold it for an extended period without the case on I'm sure I'd end up literally burning my hand... >_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Well. some things..

    First. I think people are knockiing VR before trying decent VR. Your phone doesnt count and is shit. Im sorry. Vive and PSVR are far superior.


    Second. When i tried VR it was obviously no longer a gimmick. It took my breath. I thought I knew what i was getting into, but most people cant even describe it. Its something you have to try to actually understand. It will catch on. It just wont be as huge as Ps4 or Xbox 1. It just needs price drops and some time. Do you know how many people want to play VR MMOs and VR porn? lol theres definitely a market. I'm simply waiting on games to be made.Most things are still testing the waters and hardly worth playing. We do have some really good ones, though few.

    and last, I support FFXIV VR but the hud will need to be changed a little. Camera will need to be allowed to rotate around more freely and then just add side by side stereoscopic rendering. This will be hard for those who play with kb and dont have good muscle memory, but for controller/gaming pad+gaming mice users itll be fine.
    I feel like you lot are taking my OP out of contexts i was mainly talking about being able to do gathering in VR as an option or even crafting but not the full game.
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    I feel like SE are getting there feet wet first in VR with that FF15 Monster of deep add on. For them Japan is there major target anyway and VR has done very well over there i can see them trying to do a full VR game sooner than later for there Japanese market/audience. Time to play Paranormal Activity The Lost Soul and scare my self to death lol.
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