Kick Abuse

[Elamys]

Expecting players to use AOE skills during large pulls is hardly being elitist or expecting "top tier play." Please. Since this was an Expert Roulette, standard pulls in those three dungeons are usually 5+ mobs, which means DPS should be using their AOE skills. You'd be surprised at how slow duties can go when your DPS choose to single target packs of 5+ mobs.

I answered this already. I'm saying people shouldn't immediately kick people who aren't playing well.

The real toxicity rarely comes from the high end players who, lets be honest, tend to group together. It comes from the players who don't make any effort and don't care to demanding everyone else just deal with it because "its just a game" or the previously mentioned "my sub" yada yada.

Yes, "but my sub" is a stupid argument. See above. You have to be playing exceptionally bad, in my opinion, to deserve being kicked. I don't mean let's not kick the BLM that's casting only Blizzard 1 and ignoring any advice people give him. At that point, I'd say that's deserved. This entire situation in this particular thread is pure hearsay, I think it was incredibly shitty of their friend to hold the run hostage, but if the OP was making an honest attempt at DPSing without knowing how much that was hurting the group, then being kicked wasn't deserved. If you consider that toxic or elitist, I'm really unsure of what to tell you.

And before we try to make this personal, I've been kicked a grand total of one time in the two years I've been playing; coincidentally, the situation at hand involved a bard getting mad that I gave this dragoon who wasn't doing very good DPS (apparently) Balance instead of them. I just try to approach the game with a good attitude. I read all these stories on the forums, and yet, people in my groups are almost never kicked; I hardly ever seen kicks even get initiated. My experience in DF has been by and large smooth and not too stressful, and DF is the only "content" I do, so how people are constantly running into these horror shows is beyond me.