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  1. #11
    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEwah View Post
    This sounds like we would have problems in O3s, but it's not! (I have already cleared O3s multiple times.)

    edit: You don't need to clip a GCD to use Cover, Provoke or Shirk! (Where did you get that idea from anyway?)
    I'm not saying it's not helpful and maybe it worked for your party but to my eyes just adds another layer of distraction that just should not be there in the first place you are more than capable of taking every single tank buster with your normal cd hell I even take those hits on sword oath and still survive them just fine, this to me is just noice becuase while doing all this ot can just focus on dps and so can the mt you will clip GCD because you have to deselect the boss, select the tank pop cover or whatever select the boss back again and unless you have some impressive reaction and speedyou are bound to clip it or mess it, that or you use focus target macros but I hate those. all and all if it works for you keep at it and do good after all I'm still progressing through enrage and you already cleared it.

    note to take if you are pld and you are ot you can just simply use intervention with some cd which will work the same if not better than cover and if yuo are mt pld just use sheltron every tankbuster you will be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    you have to deselect the boss, select the tank pop cover or whatever select the boss back again.
    /ac "cover" <2>

    If you only ever intend to cover/intervention/whatever the other tank, use that macro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Of course using such strategies isn't needed, but it's free and it helps. It makes the fight a lot smoother by allowing you to use extra mitigation on autos and other mechanic damage instead of keeping them for tank busters only. Cover is an extra free 20% mitigation CD. Why not use it ? It's not like you're sacrificing DPS for doing so.
    Freyyy is this not a funny Lady in US TV?
    I use cover during apanda--->because hallowed for crits *peng*no answer pls*peng*
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    THis was a common tactic when you had tanks staying in DPS stance, and constant DPS/TBs was heading towards the tanks.
    But now that tanks use tank stance more, and there's not really any situation u would need an extra CD to survive, no one really does this anymore. most think its crazy talk.
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    Cover + Awareness pair up pretty well, as Frey pointed out, so this is a pretty smart way of going about things (unless your OT needs the action slot for Interject to silence the Iron Giant). You could Cover + Hollowed the Apanda if you really wanted to, the Apanda is probably going to be dead by the time the Critical Hit goes off anyways. The pummel that you'd actually want covered is the one that occurs immediately after Folio + Hammers, but it happens like 15s before the Critical Hit, and you shouldn't need tank stance for it either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    THis was a common tactic when you had tanks staying in DPS stance, and constant DPS/TBs was heading towards the tanks.
    But now that tanks use tank stance more, and there's not really any situation u would need an extra CD to survive, no one really does this anymore. most think its crazy talk.
    Any good group still has all their tanks stay out of tankstance for all the fights, even in week 1, so nothing has changed.
    Maybe *your* group could go out of tankstance more as well if you'd only use your free migitation like Cover more effectively instead of scoffing and laughing at the idea of free extra migitation.
    Free reminder that good tanks are able to stay in DPS stance for 99% of time without costing the healers any dps primarily and especially BECAUSE they use any extra free migitation as effectively as possible.
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    Last edited by Thoro39; 09-03-2017 at 11:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    note to take if you are pld and you are ot you can just simply use intervention with some cd which will work the same if not better than cover and if yuo are mt pld just use sheltron every tankbuster you will be fine.
    Actually, imho I think Intervention is bad. 6 sec of 10% mitigation for 50 gauge points, but you just can use Sheltron for yourself for 24% mitigation. It has it's use for gauge dump and maybe some tank busters you can't cover. Yet I wouldn't rely on this, especially since it only becomes effective once you (PLD) use a cooldown (Rampart/Sentinel) yourself. Even then it's less effective than cover + your own cooldowns.

    Also you can't block anything with Sheltron if those attacks are guaranteed to crit. If that would be possible I would have MT this fight from the start, and would have taken out Awareness, lol.

    Sorry to hear that you haven't cleared that floor yet. I wish you best of luck.

    PS: Yes, I can click through all of this without clipping ;P
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    you have to deselect the boss, select the tank pop cover or whatever select the boss back again and unless you have some impressive reaction and speedyou are bound to clip it or mess it, that or you use focus target macros but I hate those.
    There is a function called Target Assist that you can keybind into anything. Unless you're playing with a controller, maybe, I don't really know cause I've always used keyboard.

    Target assist makes selecting the tank or the target of a particular mechanic incredibly easy: click target assist > use skill, click target assist immediately after. This happens in about 1s and will completely avoid GCD clipping. It's amazing for PLD, DRK, and all healers, and can be useful for some situations for DPS (ie. using Palisade/Apoca, or Goading the tank in trash pulls).

    My target assist keybind is the mouse wheel, idk if that button is already bound to something else for you.
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    Last edited by Fernosaur; 09-05-2017 at 04:33 PM.

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    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Cover + Awareness pair up pretty well, as Frey pointed out, so this is a pretty smart way of going about things (unless your OT needs the action slot for Interject to silence the Iron Giant). You could Cover + Hollowed the Apanda if you really wanted to, the Apanda is probably going to be dead by the time the Critical Hit goes off anyways. The pummel that you'd actually want covered is the one that occurs immediately after Folio + Hammers, but it happens like 15s before the Critical Hit, and you shouldn't need tank stance for it either way.
    now this. THIS is something helpful idk why I haven't though off I think the right way to use cover is during this phase thank you my friend I will be trying this out during that phase to see if I can relieve some healer stress.
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    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernosaur View Post
    There is a function called Target Assist that you can keybind into anything. Unless you're playing with a controller

    unfortunately I play on controller if such a function exists I'm not aware of it and I can't for the life of me battle with a keyboard and mouse. seems to be very helpful for more fluid tactics like that. thanks for that feedback will try to find if there's anything like that for controller.
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