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    Player
    konage's Avatar
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    Devenu De'lune
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Your war can solo tank the fight. Holmgang every other critical
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I main DRK and never tank swap that fight or use cover from PLD. Awareness + Rampart + TBN for one buster; Shadow Wall + TBN for others. I use LD on the 3rd Critical after the dragon dies and again during Ninjas. I drop tank stance after the first critical and never turn it back on. I have MORE than enough mitigation to comfortably survive all of the tank busters.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    If you use Awareness 13-14 seconds before the pull Awareness will be back up again for the second Critical Hit. Little tidbit of info that some people don't know :P That makes it so there's no need for tank swaps either.

    Cover is still a nice free CD, tho, so if it's working out for you guys keep doing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    In 3.x, Cover was useless and everyone wanted a gap closer. In 4.x, gap closers are useless and everyone wants Cover.

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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Of course using such strategies isn't needed, but it's free and it helps. It makes the fight a lot smoother by allowing you to use extra mitigation on autos and other mechanic damage instead of keeping them for tank busters only. Cover is an extra free 20% mitigation CD. Why not use it ? It's not like you're sacrificing DPS for doing so.
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    Cemil Molkoh
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    Cerberus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Of course using such strategies isn't needed, but it's free and it helps. It makes the fight a lot smoother by allowing you to use extra mitigation on autos and other mechanic damage instead of keeping them for tank busters only. Cover is an extra free 20% mitigation CD. Why not use it ? It's not like you're sacrificing DPS for doing so.
    Freyyy is this not a funny Lady in US TV?
    I use cover during apanda--->because hallowed for crits *peng*no answer pls*peng*
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    Ar'telan Qin
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    Omega
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    Fisher Lv 70
    I use cover during apanda, because I use hallowed for the crit hit but there's raidwide heals going out anyway, so it helps. But I mt the entire fight aside from the first crit hit, and that's just to ensure aggro with a quick voke-shirk swap.

    There's so many adds that I think I'd actually find it more confusing to do tankswaps now I'm used to having her for the whole fight.

    maybe one day my almost static will be able to pug a melee that doesn't drop a book on me so I can clear...
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    THis was a common tactic when you had tanks staying in DPS stance, and constant DPS/TBs was heading towards the tanks.
    But now that tanks use tank stance more, and there's not really any situation u would need an extra CD to survive, no one really does this anymore. most think its crazy talk.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Thoro Heavypunch
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    THis was a common tactic when you had tanks staying in DPS stance, and constant DPS/TBs was heading towards the tanks.
    But now that tanks use tank stance more, and there's not really any situation u would need an extra CD to survive, no one really does this anymore. most think its crazy talk.
    Any good group still has all their tanks stay out of tankstance for all the fights, even in week 1, so nothing has changed.
    Maybe *your* group could go out of tankstance more as well if you'd only use your free migitation like Cover more effectively instead of scoffing and laughing at the idea of free extra migitation.
    Free reminder that good tanks are able to stay in DPS stance for 99% of time without costing the healers any dps primarily and especially BECAUSE they use any extra free migitation as effectively as possible.
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    Last edited by Thoro39; 09-03-2017 at 11:56 PM.

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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Cover + Awareness pair up pretty well, as Frey pointed out, so this is a pretty smart way of going about things (unless your OT needs the action slot for Interject to silence the Iron Giant). You could Cover + Hollowed the Apanda if you really wanted to, the Apanda is probably going to be dead by the time the Critical Hit goes off anyways. The pummel that you'd actually want covered is the one that occurs immediately after Folio + Hammers, but it happens like 15s before the Critical Hit, and you shouldn't need tank stance for it either way.
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    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Diana Prince
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Cover + Awareness pair up pretty well, as Frey pointed out, so this is a pretty smart way of going about things (unless your OT needs the action slot for Interject to silence the Iron Giant). You could Cover + Hollowed the Apanda if you really wanted to, the Apanda is probably going to be dead by the time the Critical Hit goes off anyways. The pummel that you'd actually want covered is the one that occurs immediately after Folio + Hammers, but it happens like 15s before the Critical Hit, and you shouldn't need tank stance for it either way.
    now this. THIS is something helpful idk why I haven't though off I think the right way to use cover is during this phase thank you my friend I will be trying this out during that phase to see if I can relieve some healer stress.
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