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  1. #11
    Player
    Estellios's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 77
    It's not really that big a deal at least in Yanxia. It's not like the peaks/fringes, all the map and quest aethercurrents are all in the section of the map you have access to in your first visit so you can unlock flying once you do the storyline in Yanxia. And doman iron sand is from the zone immediately after. It's not asking anything insane of you.
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    Last edited by Estellios; 08-31-2017 at 03:15 AM.

  2. #12
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    Hellstorm's Avatar
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    Character
    Silvermist Hellstorm
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    For crafters i just used my lvl 60 melded ironwork gear and had no problem getting all my classes to 70. Only pieces i got was lvl 63 gsm/crp weapons and lvl 65 body because didnt have lvl 60 weapons and the body was alittle better then ironworks and i like the way it looked. As for gathering i got 62 because didnt have 60 gear then I got the 65 hq gear melded with 2 gathering 3 for each piece that could hold it and was able to gather every node to 70 again with ease.
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  3. #13
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    Mirarara's Avatar
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    Character
    Mira Rara
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 70
    Finish your MSQ. It's not like it takes a longer time than levelling your crafter/gatherer, unless you are a botter.
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  4. #14
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    uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu's Avatar
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    Character
    Pa Lin'guine
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Don't really see the issue. Anything you craft or gather will give exp, just slower. Use lower level leves/collectables.
    Level 65 gears are available from red scrips, it's just beyond that you need to visit the merchants in locked areas until 70 yellow scrips.
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  5. #15
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 50
    It doesn't sound like the issue is about how to level, or about there being too much to do before being able to reach the new gathering nodes. It's about the pattern. It's about not being able to get item X until you've already passed the point where item X would have been useful to you. That's just bad design.

    People (those who have any interest in gathering / crafting) should be able to first gather items, then use them to make gear, then do the content where they'd wear that gear. If you have to have already passed the content where you'd want the gear before you can gather/make it, then what's the point of ever making it at all? Sure, lots of players go back later to progress crafting and gathering just for the heck of it, but the biggest incentive and reward for doing so is already moot.
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  6. #16
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Gear doesn't usually hold someone back in the story.
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  7. #17
    Player
    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Gear doesn't usually hold someone back in the story.
    Gear does, however, get out-leveled if you go too far before getting it. Nobody suggested it holding anyone back, just losing its usefulness.
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  8. #18
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    Mandudez's Avatar
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    Character
    Man Dudez
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 90
    It's like some people play this game at a slower pace instead of rushing to the end and getting everything max level and max gear in three days. Just because YOU enjoy playing a certain way doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do so also.
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  9. #19
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Qt Melon
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    It doesn't sound like the issue is about how to level, or about there being too much to do before being able to reach the new gathering nodes. It's about the pattern. It's about not being able to get item X until you've already passed the point where item X would have been useful to you. That's just bad design.

    People (those who have any interest in gathering / crafting) should be able to first gather items, then use them to make gear, then do the content where they'd wear that gear.
    MSQ gave you plenty of gear for leveling a battle class.
    You didn't need to get new gear when you were leveling your crafting/gathering classes. You could do the while thing with HW high end gear like carbonweave/ironworks.

    If you have to have already passed the content where you'd want the gear before you can gather/make it, then what's the point of ever making it at all? Sure, lots of players go back later to progress crafting and gathering just for the heck of it, but the biggest incentive and reward for doing so is already moot.
    No, it's not the biggest reward. Crafting and gathering is always secondary to main scenario. It's been time and time again recommended you do the MSQ first before you decided to gather or craft. Given that MSQ rewards HQ gear items it was a way for not only players to level up quickly and be geared properly for dungeons it also prevented users from gouging others struggling to level. The initial rush from a majority of the players done, you now help other players trying to catch up which is why that gear exists, or you can use it as glamour since many complain about the lack of glamour options.
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    Last edited by QT_Melon; 09-07-2017 at 09:49 PM.

  10. #20
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pulsahr View Post
    Plus, I know that when I'll have MSQ finished, I'll just lose interest in the game, until an update. I want to exp my gatherers and crafter before that. But this game doesn't allow me to.
    your right tbh the best time I had in sb was doing the msq , everything I just do to do I like it but doing the msq makes the game feel so much more alive i hate the gates to
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