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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlinnnnn View Post
    im sure this has to be a ban-able offense, your calling for the employees to be tortured and killed because they made a way to skip the story in the game
    Yeah, I've been following this thread but that kind of wording used definitely is not acceptable on forums. If there is no apology then I wouldn't blame people for using the report function.
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  2. #12
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Me too, my dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by TensaiSogetsu View Post
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    That's a little bit harsh, don't you think?
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    Last edited by ErryK; 08-30-2017 at 09:14 PM.



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  3. #13
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Story progression it is what makes this MMO unique. I don' see logic to be able to unlock level 70 areas and content at level 1 character just because a player don't want to progress to story. What's the point?
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  4. #14
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    Raistlin Majerre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Story progression it is what makes this MMO unique. I don' see logic to be able to unlock level 70 areas and content at level 1 character just because a player don't want to progress to story. What's the point?
    for a lot of MMO players, the mmo doesnt start until max level, and when you have played as many as i have, (even though i played through the story to get the pets and mounts) the last thing you want to do is level another char on a new game

    and honestly in comparison to most mmos, the leveling process in FFXiv is PAINFUL especially the inbetween story parts between expacs
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    Last edited by Raistlinnnnn; 08-30-2017 at 09:15 PM.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlinnnnn View Post
    THIS GAME IS NOT NEW PLAYER FRIENDLY AT ALL,FORCES PEOPLE THAT DONT CARE ABOUT THE STORY TO SPEND EXTRA $ TO SKIP PAST THAT CRAP
    Sorry, friend, but this is where you lost me. FFXIV doesn't pretend to be anything more than a story-driven MMO, a Final Fantasy game first and foremost. The game has a heavy emphasis on, in this player's opinion, one of the strongest FF stories since 10. Going to the game with the mentality of "BUT MUH END GAME GEARS" is, frankly, silly.

    Also, to the point of "actual raids", there will be a 24-man raid coming in patch 4.1, along with the next stage of anima weapons, so your lack of patience doesn't mean the creators need to cater to you.

    Is this game perfect? No, it's not. But the things you are suggesting serve to turn this game into WoW, and I left that game for a reason.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by KalinOrthos View Post
    Sorry, friend, but this is where you lost me. FFXIV doesn't pretend to be anything more than a story-driven MMO, a Final Fantasy game first and foremost. The game has a heavy emphasis on, in this player's opinion, one of the strongest FF stories since 10. Going to the game with the mentality of "BUT MUH END GAME GEARS" is, frankly, silly.

    Also, to the point of "actual raids", there will be a 24-man raid coming in patch 4.1, along with the next stage of anima weapons, so your lack of patience doesn't mean the creators need to cater to you.

    Is this game perfect? No, it's not. But the things you are suggesting serve to turn this game into WoW, and I left that game for a reason.
    i think you are assuming i dont like the game or something, its far superior to warcraft, swtor, lotro, gw2 ect, i would just like to see more end game stuff, and the end game gear to be interesting and unique, instead of stat sticks
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlinnnnn View Post
    i think you are assuming i dont like the game or something, its far superior to warcraft, swtor, lotro, gw2 ect, i would just like to see more end game stuff, and the end game gear to be interesting and unique, instead of stat sticks
    But you're coming into an expansion that's barely 2 months old, saying that there's a lack of content. Of course there's a lack of content, we aren't even one major patch in!

    Also, with the current systems in place, I'm not entirely sure how you would make gear more interesting. If you're talking about having gear sets that alter abilities, sorry, but no, I always hated that mentality of "must have" because one ability hits slightly harder. I prefer the mentality of side grades that the game has now, where the idea of "must have" is contigent on meta and optimization options.

    EDIT: I should also add that, just because there's a lack of content that YOU want to do, doesn't mean there's a lack of content. How many hours have you wasted in Gold Saucer? Have you tried out this years Rising event? Do you level crafting? Have you tried leveling other classes?
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    Last edited by KalinOrthos; 08-30-2017 at 09:47 PM.

  8. #18
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    Aylis Tessier
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    1. I won't lie but I've always liked set bonuses /agree
    2. To go one step further I always felt any weapon you put a lot of time and effort into or fought against RNG to get should have some kinda added effect
    3. I think all of us will agree this game is in dire need of a glamor catalogue
    4. No opinion/don't really care.
    5. THIS THIS THISSS!! I don't need to be told how I can or can't dress in real life, don't tell me how I can or can't in a game
    6. Probably won't happen without a complete combat redesign for both PVE and PVP
    7. As much as I like cut scenes, yes I feel this game overdoes them for even the most menial of things. If there's no real interaction, then yes they should be saved for the important parts.
    8.I don't raid but I would support this for the players that like to raid/
    9. This game really doesn't need that many add on's if you ask me.
    10. No issues from me, other games I play even if an outfit is made for a female NPC or main story character and it goes to the players, they always have a male version of it as well.
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    Last edited by Aylis; 08-30-2017 at 09:54 PM. Reason: char limit

  9. #19
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    Good lord, OP - while you make a lot of good points that I agree with later on in your post, your opening so raised my hackles I almost didn't notice them.

    Suffice it to say, not only do I disagree with the notion that players should be able to skip "that crap" for free, I don't think they should be able to skip it at all. Players with patience and tolerance, who are willing to shovel a lot of dirt before they hit gold tend to be a much higher grade of player than those that scream and cry if they can't get what they want RIGHT NOW. No, plowing through the Main Scenario doesn't do anything to improve a player's gaming skills, but it DID do a lot to weed out the folks with poor attention spans and short fuses.

    And that's to say nothing of the folks who might actually ENJOY the story, but feel pressured to skip it all by their friends who want them to join them at endgame sooner.

    Sadly, SE wants to make money more than they want to cultivate a high-quality playerbase, and the skip scrolls do that twice over, both by funneling money to SE by way of the cost of the scrolls, and also by retaining players who aren't patient enough to wait a few weeks to get to the "good stuff".

    For your other stuff, yeah - 1 and 2 I definitely agree with. Gear needs to be more interesting. 3, 4, 5, and 10 are good, as well - glamour system needs a lot of fixes (though, with 10, I'm not quite sure I agree that healer gear is as girlie as you say). Don't care enough about PvP to agree or disagree with 6. 7 is good - would definitely like to see more emotion from my character in cinematics (but wait - I thought we were skipping "that crap"?) and meaningful dialog choices would be nice (though I doubt this will happen, given that this game doesn't have "story paths" of any kind). 8 sounds awesome; would love to see this. Don't care about 9, since I play on PS4 and likely wouldn't be able to use them anyway - but as long as they don't provide PC players advantages that would make them more desirable in parties than console players, sure, addons ahoy!
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    Last edited by LineageRazor; 08-30-2017 at 10:11 PM.

  10. #20
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    why are yall baited so damn easily
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