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  1. #31
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    MartaDemireux's Avatar
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    Hiraeth Petrichor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    One day I had a weird idea that BLU is the only new job they release in an expansion, but it's also the only job with 3 specs. Tank BLU, Healer BLU, DPS BLU.
    Quote Originally Posted by kashi11 View Post
    One would just equip different soulstones of different BLU mages
    Yoshi mentioned something along these lines once upon a time. But this was related to the "hybrid" role/job concept that was floating around a few years ago. That idea involved equipping so many of one set of role-like abilities to determine your role (think RIFT trees).

    Personally, I don't see BLU as a healer. But I definitely could see it as a job that could "shift" itself between DPS and Tank roles. I feel like it would be tied to the Role Abilities menu with just one soulstone, choosing which set of 10 role abilities you want.

    It could even be the first job to not have any restrictions on gear (outside of job-specific gear), where the main stat of all equipped gear is automatically converted to that of the corresponding set of Role Abilities chosen. BLU abilities could alter as well (like WAR stances provide) so Mighty Guard could be featured as a tank stance with Tank Role Abilities equipped, and when DPS Role Abilities are equipped could be altered to be a self (or even party-wide) mitigation buff. Just have to follow the same rules that changing jobs have: not in battle and not in a duty.

    Limiting to 2 roles could even lead to another job getting a dual-role treatment, allowing for two jobs to come out in the expansion with multiple role options. DNC could be a good partner candidate for this and could fill any of the 3 roles, really, but would likely go Healer/DPS to give a Tank, Healer and 2 DPS options with just 2 jobs added.
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    Last edited by MartaDemireux; 09-04-2018 at 12:06 PM.

  2. #32
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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post

    A small % increase to tank/heal is better then more dps bloat.
    If creating content happened in a vacuum w/o cost, yes.
    You realize Yoshi looks at the cost of resources to make such content, and then decides if its going to increase the number of subscriptions and expansion purchases, right?
    Not if it increases the number of tanks by some small 1% or less.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  3. #33
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Regardless of their lore and "learning" mechanic, the spells won't deviate much outside the current tool kit of their role. If they're casters, they will fundamentally have spells that are similar to BLM/SMN/RDM, e.g. direct damage, dot, procs, etc. The "learning" aspect will likely occur inside of job quests rather than in the open world (for obvious reasons) and involve "get hit with X attack Y times" or whatever. I doubt BLU will be a tank because the word MAGE is in their name and mages wear casting/healing gear and tanks wear fending gear. It would look weird for a MAGE to be casting spells wearing THIS: .
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  4. #34
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    It would look weird for a MAGE to be casting spells wearing THIS: .
    While not that set, i can already wear armor as a mage, as i have quite a few platemail armor sets. (some from 1.0, Dated gear can be applied to all jobs, including the Lv40-49 platemails from dungeons)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  5. #35
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Viper Lv 100
    I hope Ceruleum Mage is our long-awaited gunblade tank job.
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  6. #36
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    If creating content happened in a vacuum w/o cost, yes.
    You realize Yoshi looks at the cost of resources to make such content, and then decides if its going to increase the number of subscriptions and expansion purchases, right?
    Not if it increases the number of tanks by some small 1% or less.

    You do realize he thinks of it all
    >will people play this
    >will this bring in new people
    >would this make a good tank/healer/dps
    >will this help fill up tank role

    When you're making a game like this you need to think of the majority and minority ,
    Tanks want another class but they also have to make it have a different appeal so others will try the role.
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  7. #37
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    You do realize he thinks of it all
    >will people play this
    >will this bring in new people
    >would this make a good tank/healer/dps
    >will this help fill up tank role

    When you're making a game like this you need to think of the majority and minority ,
    Tanks want another class but they also have to make it have a different appeal so others will try the role.
    all of which was addressed in our conversation so far, so what was the point of summing it up?
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  8. #38
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    It would look weird for a MAGE to be casting spells wearing THIS: .
    It looks weird for *anyone* to be wearing that.

    Is there some in-universe lore that states that armor of any kind stifles aetheric generation and conservation within a mortal vessel? If not, then there's no reason a mage *couldn't* wear heavy armor. And it would be no more stupid for them to wear all that junk than a tank.


    of course, not to mention bikini tanks again, because that's not weird or anything.
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  9. #39
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    Zyneste Azurox
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I realized what I WOULD WANT. I personally hated FFX-2's Gun BlueMage so gun blade goign to a different job is niccee.. What I think would be interesting would be something like a "Mirror" Shield user.

    Have the soul stone learn spells from viewing monsters in the "eye" of the mirror on your shield. Maybe make the design less bulky by allowing the shield to expand and retract, similar to AST Globes that flatten when put away.

    Just imagine light holding up the shield in front of you as you channel a large spell (lol block disabled during hard spell casting) with the mirror shooting out the spell or radiating the buff up your arm to you or straight around you.

    Its a very Magey weapon considering CNJ (WHITE Mage base) and THM (BLACK mage base) had shields originally.

    Im all for a BLU tank. Fits wayyy too well on too many things!
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    Last edited by Zyneste; 09-06-2018 at 07:35 AM.

  10. #40
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    While not that set, i can already wear armor as a mage, as i have quite a few platemail armor sets. (some from 1.0, Dated gear can be applied to all jobs, including the Lv40-49 platemails from dungeons)
    I kinda of like it, just paint the pants Blue.
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