Endgame Content, Competitive Atmosphere

[tachikoma]

If the devs came out and said "we plan to introduce many forms of endgame, it is a priority that we provide challenging content to all groups of players. We are going to implement XYZ for 2.0 we are going to have many free roaming HNM's that require large scale player involvement and strategy to tackle. We are going to introduce a RELIC system for the player who wishes to put in years of work for a very long term goal" this would make me a FFXIV fan and player for life.

tldr: I want content that is more then a spammable 5min. zerg where I can't bring my mule in to the fight and come out w/o a death.

[Slyvannas]

PvP always makes for good competition

[Madruk]

The idea of a bot proof game is as likely as banning everyone who does it. The point is repetitive tasks that are so prevalent in asian MMO's encourages it. I've yet to not see a Korean or similar asian MMO with systems designed that basically scream bot me.

[Andrien]

you guys need to chill out. The best possible remedy for this issue is to make HNM trigger popped.

Example, you farm for pop triggers in instance raids and let them drop from the NM's and bosses. The effects, everyone participating in content and working towards a goal. No silly dumb camping and afk'ing wasting time for hours.

edit: in addition, let the triggers be key items or rare/ex, untradeable that disappears upon use.



I also like limbus and this crystal tower i read about sounds interesting.

[CrstyCaptin]

Not interested in another 21-24 hour repop NM with all the 1337 gear so people can spend $3k on a bot and gloat about it. Those days need to be done. No more 'endgame' content where over the course of your entire play time you end up 'standing around trying to claim' 80% of the time instead of actually fighting. Structured trigger NMs like sky/sea would do fine. And let's exclude the "Just killed a jailer and he didn't drop the next pop". That crap was wack. I'm sure Yoshi will do a fine job come 2.0 for combat/battle and provide a good challenge. I'm just not expecting anything even decent until these crappy servers are tossed out the window.

[Treach]

Nasa was just for idiots who couldn't sync app properly on their own, it never gave a better success rate, it just auto synced everyone's claim time for them. $1500 or putting delays in vent comments, hard choice, good thing I got it for free lol. Turn and Burn though...that one was epic, and I could see a bot like that actually working on 2.0 release due to the current lack of claim delay on every mob.

[tachikoma]

Rather then arguing over RMT in a thread requesting endgame variety and content lets stay on track. If you have no desire for taking part in a diverse endgame environment then stop posting in this thread. If you do have suggestions then please post them up. I like all forms of endgame including trigger pops/instance/raid/HNM/etc I would like to hear from the devs that they want to add many forms of endgame and that the current excuse for endgame that we have now lolmoogle and ifrit are a joke compared to the complex intense future. And if this is going to become another one of the MMOs for hte kiddie crowd that offers no real challenges then this is not the game for me.

[Treach]

So basically you want ffxi of 2004-2005?

[Splice]

So basically you want ffxi of 2004-2005?

basically he wants a "diverse endgame environment"

[TheVedis]

basically he wants a "diverse endgame environment"

which is what 11 was back then

but 11 was an exception to the rule compared to most games cuz at the time it wasnt doing cap raises

it just kept adding, and adding, and adding to the 75 endgame


wish more games would do that, youd make content go so much further doing so but in the interest of pushing out expansions that force people to buy them via cap raising and invalidating old stuff, its more financialy sound to not do it