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    Bohater's Avatar
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    Elphen Gura
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    Gladiator Lv 70

    Are Ward abilities useless?

    I've been wondering about this for a while now. These various Ward abilities from BOT and MIN have the effect of "increases shard/crystal/cluster yield by two" for 400GP.

    On a normal node (so 4 hits, and assuming no Nymeia's Ward procs or node bonuses):
    Ward ability: I would get 12 shards.
    Bountiful Harvest/Yield II at yield +3: I would get 16 shards.

    Why would I want to use Ward abilities if I can use Bountiful Harvest/Yield II and get more for the same GP. Is there a situation where I want to use these or are they useless?

    I suppose you could use Ward + Bountiful II and get 21 shards out of a node, but that requires 700GP. With that you can just use Bountiful II on two nodes and still get more shards. To me it seems like a high GP cost ability for little gain.
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    Kai Lee
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    Lancer Lv 70
    They most certainly be merge or condensed into 1 ability.
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 96
    You answered your own question, don't use them. They make sense pre 50 on some nodes if all you want are crystals. 50+ it makes much more sense to use aetherial reduction for crystals.
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    They were useful for Shards back in the day. Now? Not so much.
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Harvest 2 is 500 GP, No? Wards are 400.

    I use them on Clusters. With the passive truth skill at 65 I get 18 clusters from a node in Mor Donuts.
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    It's better than Yield 2 in that it's 100 GP less, which coincidentally will now let you use Bountiful more. I have 700 GP, so I can use the ward, then bountiful 3 times. Combine that with a proc and it's quite a lot in one swing.

    On a 5-hit node with 700 GP (from the perspective of shard gathering or something):

    Yield 2 + 2 Bountiful 2s = 23, 700 GP
    Ward + 3 Bountiful 2s = 27, 700 GP
    5 Bountiful 2s = 20, 500 GP

    But with ephemerals being so good for crystals and clusters, it only has a use for shard gathering, and I usually send out retainers for those.

    Always use the increases on the +attempt nodes btw
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    Last edited by Elamys; 08-25-2017 at 01:14 PM.