Why I don't like pvp now =(

[KaimaSansun]

As someone who loves to pvp a lot, it saddens me that most of the time it has become either lots of bots of teams or people just afking at the entrance but no one wants to vote-kick out, or they have someone else in the pt that will press no just so you can't =(. I honestly just wish they would remove the exp out of pvp and let it be just about the pvp again and yes i know someone of you will argue that it's the only reason to pvp now or that it helps level your jobs faster so you like it, but for someone that actually wants to win matches and actually enjoy pvp for what it is, it saddens me that it's just become the place people like to exploit to get free exp and screw people over that want to win.

Now for the people that still want exp in it, i propose they give out a bigger chunk of exp, but only if you win or come in second place, the losing team should not get exp at all. That way people at least have to try and participate enough to where they gain a benefit from it.

Love to know what people think about that? =)

[Laerune]

As someone who loves to pvp a lot, it saddens me that most of the time it has become either lots of bots of teams or people just afking at the entrance but no one wants to vote-kick out, or they have someone else in the pt that will press no just so you can't =(. I honestly just wish they would remove the exp out of pvp and let it be just about the pvp again and yes i know someone of you will argue that it's the only reason to pvp now or that it helps level your jobs faster so you like it, but for someone that actually wants to win matches and actually enjoy pvp for what it is, it saddens me that it's just become the place people like to exploit to get free exp and screw people over that want to win.

Now for the people that still want exp in it, i propose they give out a bigger chunk of exp, but only if you win or come in second place, the losing team should not get exp at all. That way people at least have to try and participate enough to where they gain a benefit from it.

Love to know what people think about that? =)

But what happens if someone gets into a group with bots or worse slackers? I get where you are comming from, I hate how bots have ruined PvP aswell, but your suggestion will harm innocent players who had the misfortune of being grouped with bots. The best suggestion would be for SE to step up, hire more people to monitor the PvP battlegrounds and when they see someone botting, drop the banhammer on them.

[Vidu]

If we need to have exp in PvP (something I'm personally not to happy about either, even though I did level a few classes up with PvP aswell and am glad that I got non-PvP-friends into PvP by promising them exp) they should be tied to a personal effort as in kills, support kills and damage dealt to objectives (if there are objectives that can be damaged) rather than flat out win/lose.
That would encourage people to engage in fighting even if they're in last place.

[Kyarra]

I say this in every Bot pvp thread, but to me the solution is that you get more experience the more you contributed to the match. I do like having the xp for playing pvp, but the bots are ruining the fun for many.

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

I'm okay with OP suggestion. Per gc win, not individual contribution.

Other thing is removing penalty if we want to leave (not kicked out).
Also the ability to add new member should be shortened to 5 mins instead of 10 mins.
So we can regroup with others who don't want to slack or bots on another match.

[Khalithar]

Exp in pvp is a good thing and something that should have been in pvp from day 1. But I'm all for it requiring participation.

Swtor has a medal system that tracks things like time on objectives, damage, kills, healing done, and so on. Adding a similar system that tracks and rewards appropriately is a good idea.

To discourage healing bots though would just have to make sure it doesn't count overheal.

[iluvOP]

I think that losing teams should get XP still, but in a noticeably lower amount.
It's a shame that people only take part in PvP due to XP. I guess it did liven up the PvP quite a bit. I mean all I was really after for before was PvP vanity gear or PvP gear in general for glamours, but to get the most out of it, I had to win and thus had to pay attention to what I was doing. I ended up liking PvP quite a bit due to that. Not something I play every day, but its good fun to queue into with some friends from time to time.

[Dark-Saviour]

Personally, I'd say rewards only for 1st, if you're going to have rewards.
Hell, get rid of the concept of 2nd and 3rd place and just have winners and losers.

Or just make matches end way sooner, because fighting impossible battles alongside people who want to hit 2nd place for more XP when you just want achievement credit gets kind of old.

[Zsolen]

Exp in pvp is a good thing and something that should have been in pvp from day 1. But I'm all for it requiring participation.

Swtor has a medal system that tracks things like time on objectives, damage, kills, healing done, and so on. Adding a similar system that tracks and rewards appropriately is a good idea.

To discourage healing bots though would just have to make sure it doesn't count overheal.

I haven't played SWTOR is while, but this is what I remember: It really did well with PvP in general. We don't even have anything even remotely similar to Huttball. The objectives in SWTOR were also highly clear and often highly contested. FFXIV will need very different types of matches to even compete at that level.

[aesteval]

Soo... You see a problem with bad behavior in the game and your solution is to not only punish the offenders, but punish non-offenders as well? The game has a built in system to report problem players: use it so the offenders can be punished and leave non-offenders alone.