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  1. #51
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    Tabi Fox
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    This is more about people saying taking raises are better than respawning in most scenarios: Click Here

    The time it takes to run back is 15-20 seconds tops in pretty much every dungeon.

    If the healer raises you at the end of a pull or just as a boss is about to die(less than 5%) that's their problem not yours.

    Weakness and Brink are a LOT more punishing now. The only time I personally throw out raises is if we're in the middle of the boss fight or if its the tank mid-pull. I've saved runs before with the tank dying in those. But dps? Nah just respawn in most cases. You doing less damage and draining my mp for it is a lot less appealing than you being absent for a whole 10-15 seconds.
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  2. #52
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    Your deaths show you were bad. You got kicked for being bad.
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  3. #53
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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Renabi Rena
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    The time it takes to run back is 15-20 seconds tops in pretty much every dungeon.
    I don't think that was the case for the OP though since after the boss they have the use of the shortcut. Unless the OP wasn't being truthful, all running back entails is is just an extra loading screen.

    No, I'm pretty sure the reason why OP was kicked was because he was dead for most of the first boss fight, and then he wastes the LB and proceeds to not wait for a rez again which the group could also take it as the OP intentionally wasting resources and trying to impede the group. Honestly, the run from the first boss to the end of that long pull is pretty damn far and with it on top of everything else I would honestly consider kicking you too, though that would probably be after having a dialogue and trying to figure out what you're doing.

    @OP: You are gear-synched in Ala Mhigo at your item level, which means there's really no excuse for you to have problems like this in that dungeon. You didn't need to accept the first revive after the boss, it's the second one that put you in hot water since it pretty much puts you out of that fight which you were late to anyway. Not accepting a rez when you're practically right before the second boss can be considered purposely hindering the group's progress and it is a kickable offense.
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  4. #54
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    LittleSparrow's Avatar
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    Lilora Sparrow
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    Moogle
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    Kicking for difference in playstyle is actually a confirmed valid reason to kick according to Square Enix GMs.

    That aside, I think they were just sick of having a DPS that continuesly dies. Stepping out of AoE's should be your number one priority regardless of the DPS loss you think you may endure. You LB when you're safe, not when you may be hit.
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  5. #55
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Personally, at the end of a boss fight, I expect people to return instead of wait for a raise. You get a quick teleport and no weakness debuff. (Although I also think the weakness debuff should only be applied if raised during combat.) In-between bosses, however, people should be raised and just eat the debuff.
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    man I know I'm still new blood and all that but OUCH. The replies here are ruthless. D: The only thing I wil say in reply to the story is while it may have been mean to kick you, I honestly think - unless you did- should've spoken in that event. The silence is what I think killed you sadly :c. I know I know.. people HATE talking in dungeons I noticed in my short time in this game. I know it's a pain.. people wanna be like my name and go fast like it's 1992 with tails following. But I always mention something if I mess up cause I want people in my group to know I wasn't trying to die or whatever. Half the time I'm begging them not to be mad. Yes begging. Most people even after the most craziest wipe when you throw my bads and sorries at them they shrug it off and move on. Least with me anyway... :O
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    Last edited by sonicadventures; 08-24-2017 at 05:33 PM.

  7. #57
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    Waliel Hla
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    Summoner Lv 90
    TIL that getting hit by AoE while casting LB equals not wanting to dodge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    I do. All the time. And live to DPS more.
    I mean, what are you doing, LBing while stacked on the tank? The only time I'd ever flat out die in the middle of a caster Lb of all things is in ex boss fights.
    The pull was everything between first and the second boss with a couple of guys with random target AoEs and cannons firing at random; you'll get targeted regardless of where you stand. I haven't tried to LB all of that, but I'd guess it gets pretty tight.

    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    If I read your OP correctly, you were standing in the aoe's because you find annoying dodge them, then complaining you got kicked for this.
    You did not. He died to what I think is the line AoE after after dodging the targeted AoE and second time he died to random AoE during LB animation lock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    You refused to avoid AoE
    He didn't refuse to avoid anything. First he got hit by another after dodging the first one and second time was during LB lock.
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    To answer the heart of your question (if there was one):

    Yes, you can be kicked for literally any reason and there's close to nothing that you can do about it. I wouldn't report anyone for doing anything wrong unless they verbally harassed you.
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    2 deaths I would not consider a lot and try avoiding 5 packs worth of AOE's while ani locked in LB I would love to see someone try that.

    the other thing is this was a duty roulette not a party finder party.

    I just consider the vote dismiss rude wthout even saying a thing in chat
    2 deaths in a random dungeon roulette is an exceptional amount. Hell even one death is too many (but understandable under rare circumstances).
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  10. #60
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    Krenian Kandos
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    Sargatanas
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    Part of a DPS's role is to understand 'when' to LB because you get locked.

    You chose to do an LB at the wrong time. It happens. I've done it myself and keeled over. I laugh with the party and shrug it off. I've yet to get booted once in four years of playing this game. Probably because I try to get along with the group of people I'm playing with.

    The fact is this: If the developers of the game state they can boot people, as was indicated in an interview that was linked in this thread, you pretty much have little to argue for. Which sometimes, yeah, it sucks to get booted because of their viewpoint. But you really didn't help yourself by not talking to the group. Releasing also probably peeved off the group enough that the Healer initiated the vote kick.

    Don't piss off a healer. They get ornery. Trust me. I have my wife as my healer on 90% of the time and she lets me have it if she doesn't like something I'm doing. >.>
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