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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    try avoiding 5 packs worth of AOE's while ani locked in LB I would love to see someone try that.
    I do. All the time. And live to DPS more.
    I mean, what are you doing, LBing while stacked on the tank? The only time I'd ever flat out die in the middle of a caster Lb of all things is in ex boss fights.

    Why don't you consider this: The problem was you, not the group.
    It happens. People have off days. Did you communicate with your group? Tell them sorry for the screw ups? Don't expect everyone to just tolerate you at all times. It's unfortunate, but some people aren't as patient as others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    Difference of playstyles should not be considered a generic valid excuse to kick someone.

    I was doing duty roulette expert on RDM (ilvl 313) last night and got Ala mhigo as a dungeon. Party consisted of tank, healer and Ninja. All was fine up to the first boss, I died due to getting hit by the front cannon while trying to avoid lock on (I don't like running around like an idiot for this attack)
    Well whether you like it or not is immaterial. It's a very easy mechanic to deal with as it is very clearly telegraphed. You should always dodge before you dps. Dead dps do no dps. Dying on such a simple mechanic won't make you look good. But if that was all that went wrong it would have been shrugged off.

    Most players can forgive one death. No one's perfect. But in addition to dying on a simple mechanic you cancelled a res so you deprived the party of even more dps because you decided to run back instead of get up and hit things, then you die later from another mechanic and again do not allow yourself to be ressed thus depriving the party of even more dps...

    You got kicked because you were essentially forcing the party to 3-man 4-man content.

    I mean you could argue it was a difference of playstyles but your playstyle means you can be absent a lot. That's not good.

    Most healers simply won't res if they can't find the time or mana to do it. If you get a res, accept it and continue the fight. Don't refuse a res and assume you're doing the healer a favour.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 08-23-2017 at 06:14 PM.

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    Taking the weakness debuff into a powerpull to save a handful of seconds that would then be lost due to reduced DPS sounds pretty dopey to me.

    Those deaths sound kinda boneheaded, but not like justification for a kick.
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    Age Ofwar
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    I would like to remind people this was a duty roulette group NOT A PRE-MADE group, also the second between the 1st and second boss is normally done in 2 to 3 pulls for a DR party
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    Elara Almasombria
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    If the other members of the party don't want you there the best they can do is kick you, they don't need any other excuse or justification. Also, here you did earn the kick.
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    I like how you're trying to push your thought about it onto other people, and ignoring what other people thought about it. A lot of people here are saying pretty much what those other people could have been thinking. And the fact that it takes 2 out of 3 people to kick you should have been a call of 'hey don't stand in stuff'....it's like staring into the sun when you know it's bad for you. Don't do it.
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    If I read your OP correctly, you were standing in the aoe's because you find annoying dodge them, then complaining you got kicked for this.

    Kick feels legit to me.
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    Think about it from their perspective. You refused a raise without saying a word just to avoid weakness, which would be at roughly 50ish seconds by the time the tank pulled something. And then you promptly die and run back a second time. As a healer myself, that would annoy me far more. The stress you supposedly "alleviated" of me is disregarded since I now have focus heal the tank for longer due to things not dying fast enough. That leaves me with potentially less cooldowns if said tanks decides to pull huge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ageofwar View Post
    I would like to remind people this was a duty roulette group NOT A PRE-MADE group, also the second between the 1st and second boss is normally done in 2 to 3 pulls for a DR party
    Now you're just making excuses. Duty Finder has no expectations. It's a tool used to randomly select 4/8/24 players and party them together. What they choose to do from that moment forward is at their own discretion. As gear levels increase, expect to see more tanks trying the mega pulls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Think about it from their perspective. You refused a raise without saying a word just to avoid weakness, which would be at roughly 50ish seconds by the time the tank pulled something. And then you promptly die and run back a second time. As a healer myself, that would annoy me far more. The stress you supposedly "alleviated" of me is disregarded since I now have focus heal the tank for longer due to things not dying fast enough. That leaves me with potentially less cooldowns if said tanks decides to pull huge.
    The first death was in the boss room.
    Return -> click on the shortcut portal -> back in boss room = ~ 20 sec (or maybe 10 sec with a SSD) versus weakness timer
    Maybe the OP would have been faster if he have used Return while the boss was still at 1% or 2%. The raise was cast after the boss died, and therefor wasted because of the shortcut at the entrance. It would be another thing if the raise was cast before the boss died and the OP ignored it until the boss died.

    The 2nd death sound like it happened directly behind the boss room. So Return should be still faster than waiting until the healer have time for a raise.
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-23-2017 at 09:23 PM.

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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The 2nd death sound like it happened directly behind the boss room. So Return should be still faster than waiting until the healer have time for a raise.
    He said the tank pulled 5 packs, which I'm going to assume is every single monster from the end of the first boss to the beginning of the second boss (near the cannon. Using a LB here is fine). Accepting the Raise is faster than Returning.
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