Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
Point... missed.. completely...
You think.. RMT are the only ones that bot?
Never said that. People use bots to play, we know, but the really annoying ones are the ones populating maps with names like "Vxxxvghhr Whxxblg" who are teleporting from node to node harvesting resources endlessly and dumping them at the NPC or yelling the same thing over and over in the middle of town. These are the gilfarmer bots. I couldn't care less about high level players using bots, they are few and far between enough that it's of little consequence to the rest of the playerbase, though if i PVP'd I might feel different.

Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
The RMT have very little impact in this game, people really want this because they think it fights RMT and it is worth fighting for?
I've stated how they affect the game and it's NOT only the economy they hurt.


"1. RMT gil costs too much"
it's something like 10 mil for 5 dollars on my server. Someone who has money to throw at a game rather than time wouldn't even blink at this price. it's a value meal at Mcdonalds.

"2. Gil for the most part is worthless"
If it was as worthless as you say, nobody would be selling it for real money. There is a profitable enough market for it as is proven by the continued presence of the illegal RMT bots and criers.



Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
With the tokens however, it becomes a different story, and it would move high amounts of gil for a lot cheaper then the RMT sell for. It ruins their business, I am not in disagreement that it will impact RMT. However the econ is so badly built it would case more problems then solve. Why are you debating with me when we have completely different points?
I'm not sure what your point is other than you like to repeat things about the economy being bad because you don't think gil is worth anything and repeating points from other threads I've seen you post in.

My point in TL;DR form: PLEX isn't a bad idea because RMT is present in this game already and giving the money to the devs instead of the farmers is good.

Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
You > I like to have Plex to fight for RMT
Wrong. I guess I didn't state it plainly enough. I dont want to fight FOR RMT. It's there already. Redirecting it to a cause for our possible benefit is better than letting it thrive and funding gil farmers.

Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
Me> it is a bad idea because FFXIV's econ is bad. I am not even looking at the effect of it has on RMT because that is not effecting the playerbase. Having a plex system NOW with the econ the way it is NOW! would be a 1000 times worse then what the RMT do to it, because people do not buy lots of RMT gil because it costs too much, esp if you compare that to what people sell wedding bands and such for.

I know it would cause problems because my main thing is to craft and I deal and look at trends every day to try make the most money. I do it because I just want to see how much gil I can make cuz I find it fun, I do not care if it is pointless. That is why I hate spending it unless I need to.
I got this part, several times. In your opinion FFXIV's economy is poor.

Let me ask you then, don't you think a large scale crisis in the economy, lamented by almost ALL players would spur the devs to do something about it even faster than 3 months of posts in the forums? Do you think that if your "destroyed economy" happened they would just shrug and give up the game to the chaos?