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    Why no Plex system?

    For those unfamiliar, the "Plex" system is one where players can buy a month of game time from the MMO developer that they can then sell for in game currency.

    No actual new in-game currency is generated. It's just players with more time and less real money selling in-game money to players who have more money but less time to play, and it goes a long way toward curbing RMT because most players would rather go with a safe transaction instead of risking being banned for buying gil.

    Have the devs commented on possibly adding it to the game, especially now that jump potions are here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    it goes a long way toward curbing RMT because most players would rather go with a safe transaction instead of risking being banned for buying gil.
    Or it promotes it if purchasing the required amount of gil is cheaper than what the normal subscription cost would be?
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    The dev team hasn't ever shown any interest in adding a plex system to XIV. It doesn't really seem to be something that the community is very interested in either, as the topic rarely comes up.
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    How it is not RMT through the back door?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    How it is not RMT through the back door?
    Actually it's more akin to RMT through the front door as opposed to the back door, which is what we have now. Money goes straight to the devs and is treated as time bought anyway, I would imagine. I would think it's a good tradeoff for people with more time than money to people with more money than time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Actually it's more akin to RMT through the front door as opposed to the back door, which is what we have now. Money goes straight to the devs and is treated as time bought anyway, I would imagine. I would think it's a good tradeoff for people with more time than money to people with more money than time.
    As a person with neither I opt for the status quo, which makes neither of those groups happy.
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    I would settle for being able to hire extra retainers for gil. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Or it promotes it if purchasing the required amount of gil is cheaper than what the normal subscription cost would be?
    When players have a safe, "legal" means of paying for currency in game, it ruins the profit margins of RMT companies because players can sidestep the fear of being banned.

    Just like I'm sure jump potions are a much more attractive option than paying a powerleveling service because of how much safer it is.

    It's worked in a number of other MMOs, including EVE Online, WoW, and Wildstar, and you see a lot less RMT activity as a result.
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    This is basically legalized rmt. And I say no to the highest levels on this.

    I view ppl selling plex/WoW coin/The Archeage token things as being no different then those buying directly from RMT. It is literally the same thing without a risk to their account being hacked or credit card info stolen.

    I do not understand how ppl can be for a plex system and against RMT. It makes no sense at all.

    Yea it ruins illegal RMT... but all it is is making the Developers the RMT instead. Which is much worse in almost every way.

    If they do add it should be $30-40 for a 1 month sub token, really screw over ppl for going the RMT route.
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    Last edited by Xatsh; 08-23-2017 at 02:33 PM.

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    This is something ive wanted for a while. If we take WoW's system as example, you can for ingame currency pay for cash-shop items including subscription.

    It works by one player purchasing a token for irl cash (20$) and putting it on their equivalent to market board for a set price generated from supply/demand. WoW players cannot game the system for more gold nor is gold generated in the process. All gold in circulation was already there.

    With SE allowing us to rent retainers and buy a lot of cash-shop exclusives i am surprised this is not a thing. I would love to use my millions of gil on something useful. A subscription token would allow me to.

    SE wouldnt loose money, in fact they would gain. 15 dollar for regular sub or 20 for gil- paid by someone else.

    Saying "ohno then we can just go buy gil" is not an issue to me as we can with the retainers we rent sell, gain and store more materials. In that sense we can already rent market superiority.

    +upvote from here rich
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