Why no Plex system?

[alimdia]

As long as it's done with limits (put a monthly cap on how much someone can spend selling sub tokens) I don't see the problem.

As said in the first or second page, the RMT market is there, money is being moved around and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it, better move that money to the devs rather than goldselling sites, the choice of no RMT doesn't exist, you have to choose between money to SE and keep gold generation controlled, or money to the companies generating a ton of gold out of thin air and relentlessly spamming us.

[Belhi]

Houseflipping can only be penalised if it can be proven in game. If people resort to using 3rd party websites and forums SE is powerless to really do anything about it.

They are adding the new Kugane housing zones. Most of that housing will be sold within 20 minutes of the servers coming up. Don't expect much more than that before 5.0 in 2 years. Its taken them almost 4 years to give us a new housing district.

[RainesS]

Let's make it simple, veterans or rich no life basement dweller wants to play free without sub with this plex system. Sounds legit to me. But I think gil in this game is worthless, considering housing is limited, gear and materia is not worth it cause it's getting replaced every two patches or so. Not an equal trade I think. Moreover, I can manage even with only 300k for repair and teleporting like crazy.

[Aylis]

Let's make it simple, veterans or rich no life basement dweller wants to play free without sub with this plex system. Sounds legit to me. But I think gil in this game is worthless, considering housing is limited, gear and materia is not worth it cause it's getting replaced every two patches or so. Not an equal trade I think. Moreover, I can manage even with only 300k for repair and teleporting like crazy.

Yeah. a PLEX system /could/ work and could be a great way to drain the excess gil from the inflated economy, but with the games main gil sink housing being limited and everything else existing in the short term. I don't see it helping unless SE comes up with more gil sinks or something that exists in the long term.

The other issue is balance, something...SE doesn't have the best track record with and this is what would worry me the most about a PLEX system in this game. There's a fine line between using a PLEX sale just because you want something fun now or just want a little extra money, to a PLEX system that makes you feel like you have no choice but to use it just to get by in basic game upkeep.

[RainesS]

Yeah. a PLEX system /could/ work and could be a great way to drain the excess gil from the inflated economy, but with the games main gil sink housing being limited and everything else existing in the short term. I don't see it helping unless SE comes up with more gil sinks or something that exists in the long term.

Yes, it could work for people with tons of gils lying around, not for newcomers in ffxiv with little gil to spare, mind you. This will cause a disparity between new and veteran players.
And yes, SE is BAD at balancing things, so that's why it's bad to have PLEX cos econ reasons.
How bout earning extra money for paying ffxiv sub instead of whining in forums for PLEX system or mandatory mogstation items. /flex

[Aylis]

Yes, it could work for people with tons of gils lying around, not for newcomers in ffxiv with little gil to spare, mind you. This will cause a disparity between new and veteran players.
And yes, SE is BAD at balancing things, so that's why it's bad to have PLEX cos econ reasons.
How bout earning extra money for paying ffxiv sub instead of whining in forums for PLEX system or mandatory mogstation items. /flex

That's....typically how PLEX systems in any game that uses it works. Players with in game currency to burn buy PLEX from players who /choose/ to buy it to sell for said in game currency. It's a choice so there's really no disparity between both parties. Unless it goes back to the balance issues I'm concerned with here. It's it a choice to sell as a newer player or player with less funds to survive, or if it's forced to use if SE does indeed make up more gil sinks or long term investments to where gil is actually needed.

Sorry, my support for them in games where it does work doesn't mean I'm "whining" for one here. I have no problem paying my sub here and in two other games as well along with making real world ends meet, thank you.

[Naunet]

I would love a Plex-like system. Games I've seen this work marvelously in include the aforementioned Eve, TERA, Rift, WildStar, WoW, Guild Wars 2, ArcheAge... probably more that I don't know about. Rift, GW2, and WoW also let you take your gold and convert it into cash shop currency, which means not only can you pay for your subscription if you want, you can buy other things off the shop as well.

It doesn't really hurt the economy at all.

[Snow_Princess]

I would love a Plex-like system. Games I've seen this work marvelously in include the aforementioned Eve, TERA, Rift, WildStar, WoW, Guild Wars 2, ArcheAge... probably more that I don't know about. Rift, GW2, and WoW also let you take your gold and convert it into cash shop currency, which means not only can you pay for your subscription if you want, you can buy other things off the shop as well.

It doesn't really hurt the economy at all.

Do any of those have a housing shortage? If not, then my point stands. It will cause problems and make the housing situation worse. Different game, different econ, just because those games know how make a good econ for it, does not mean this game can support it.

Stop "Chicken Littling".

I am not, I am answering a question:
Why no Plex system?
Answer:
The game's econ can't support it.

Also you are wrong about RMT. People have stockpiles of gil because there is NOTHING to do with it. This has been a problem since 2.0 (1.0 had different problems but at least it had a more active econ) So there are people like me that craft just because they like to, not many do. Personality differences, all it is.

[Naunet]

Do any of those have a housing shortage?

The housing in this game has nothing to do with it. It's not like people are magically going to be able to buy houses once they buy gil from SE.